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Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214100#msg1214100
« on: November 08, 2015, 05:00:23 pm »
NAME:
Unburdened
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
2 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
Your creatures gain +1 ATK for a turn if you have no shield in play.
Do not cast more than once per turn.
NAME:
Disencumbered
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
2 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
Your creatures gain +1 ATK for a turn if you have no weapon in play.
Do not cast more than once per turn.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
Upped and unupped can be cast in the same turn (Nova+SN), but if you cast either one twice or more, your creatures will receive permanent -1 ATK instead.

Theme: without the weight of your shield and/or weapon you can move and attack faster.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2015, 05:24:22 pm by Treldon »
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214101#msg1214101
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2015, 05:03:28 pm »
Maybe make the cost 3 | 2
Interesting idea though
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214109#msg1214109
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214111#msg1214111
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2015, 05:48:02 pm »
What's the penalty for playing more than once?

Upped and unupped can be cast in the same turn (Nova+SN), but if you cast either one twice or more, your creatures will receive permanent -1 ATK instead.

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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214170#msg1214170
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 03:39:58 am »
Why past tense?
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214177#msg1214177
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 07:03:06 am »
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214204#msg1214204
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 01:03:23 pm »
I really like the idea of having a momentary ally global stat buffer

The only thing is that I'm not sure what the reasoning is for changing the upped version into "weapons" instead of just saying for example:
"If you don't have a shield or weapon" or " If you have nothing in your equipment slots".
That way it feels more like an actual buff to the upped card rather than a change from shield to weapon.

Because as it is, it feels more like a change in the situational aspect.
Ex: I have 2 shields and 2 weapons in deck. I have Unburdened or  Disencumbered in my hand with a total of 30 cards in deck (not including hand which has 8 ), there is a 2 in 30 chance I get a shield/weapon.

Basically it would benefit me more to have 3 unnupped and 3 upped versions of the card in my deck so I can even out the odds if I want to have shields and weapons in my deck.
If you were to change it into both weapons and shields, the chances would become 4 out of 30 instead of 2 (and not saying "oh god I wish it was the upped/unupped version gah! :P )

 This is the crux of my point.

Just my 2 cents, otherwise, INTERESTING IDEA!
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214250#msg1214250
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 10:37:47 pm »
Why past tense?

Both are adjectives

Sorry, I wasn't clear at all. I was just thinking that the extra "-ed" at the end of each name was not needed. So the names could be "Unburden" and "Disencumber." This way, they sound more like spells, use less characters, and are more clear/direct as to their function in my opinion. Also, the verb form makes them sound active.
For example, EtG has Poison, not Poisoned; Chaos Seed, not Chaos Seeded; Purify, not Purified; and so on. I didn't double check, but I can't remember a spell that is "in past tense" as I put it.
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214290#msg1214290
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2015, 05:55:25 am »
Why past tense?

Both are adjectives

Sorry, I wasn't clear at all. I was just thinking that the extra "-ed" at the end of each name was not needed. So the names could be "Unburden" and "Disencumber." This way, they sound more like spells, use less characters, and are more clear/direct as to their function in my opinion. Also, the verb form makes them sound active.
For example, EtG has Poison, not Poisoned; Chaos Seed, not Chaos Seeded; Purify, not Purified; and so on. I didn't double check, but I can't remember a spell that is "in past tense" as I put it.

I'm quite sure Chaos Seed is a noun, so tenses make no sense. Poison is debatable. Actually the majority of the spell names are nouns, as I count it there are only 7 verbs (Drain Life, Enchant Artifact, Freeze, Heal, Purify, Reverse Time, Steal), 1 debatable (Poison). Upgrades turn 3 of those into nouns (Deadly Poison, Improved Heal, Improved Steal). I'll admit that the only adjective I could find is Unstoppable.

But in the end the point is that
- it is the state of being unburdened that allows for moving/attacking faster. In verb form it'd imply that you voluntarily remove your equipment, which this spell does not do
- I think both titles sound better in adjective form  :P
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214291#msg1214291
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015, 06:06:23 am »
Okay  :P
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214292#msg1214292
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015, 06:12:18 am »
Pretty overcosted compared to Nightfall/Eclipse, which give an attack buff for a lower cost. I'd say 2/3 is a good point for cost.
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Re: Unburdened | Disencumbered https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60404.msg1214344#msg1214344
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015, 05:24:49 pm »
Both versions cost only 2 :gravity, upped also adds only +1 ATK/creature
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