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Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126865#msg126865
« on: July 29, 2010, 01:05:33 am »
NAME:
Falcon
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
:air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 2
ABILITY:
Falcon gains +1|+0 for every other Falcon on the field. Falcon cannot be targeted by it's owner.
NAME:
Sky Falcon
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
:air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 2
ABILITY:
Sky Falcon gains +2|+0 for every other Sky Falcon on the field. Sky Falcon cannot be targeted by it's owner.
ART:
Unupgraded - http://www.treehugger.com/peregrine%20falcon.jpg
Upgraded - http://gallery.photo.net/photo/5704604-lg.jpg
IDEA:
SilentShadow
NOTES:
Both abilities are passive. It should have airborne as well, if 3 passives are allowed.
The first passive is called Flock, or Swarm.
The second passive is called Untamed.
They can both be grouped together as Wild.
Untamed is to prevent fractal and PU abuse.
This card is easily destroyed by creature control due to it's low HP, so the effect is okay, if not underpowered.
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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126867#msg126867
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 01:08:03 am »
My immediate thought was that fractal would make this card OP. However, at a cost of either 4 :air or 5 :air , and in comparison to scarabs at only 2 :time cost also with a swarm ability, so fractal wouldn't be so terrible.

My one questions : Why falcons?

edit: actually, thinking about the card more. 2 cards with 10 :air cost would yield 2 6/2 creature (12 attack) - not so bad, they're vulnerable at 2 hp. However, having 6 of these out for 30 :air (less than 3 dragons for 39 attack) would yield 14x6 = 84 attack. Thinking back, a duo deck would have a decent amount of :air quanta, so fractal might make these overpowered for an OTK deck, or close to it.

second edit: failfail, *can't be targeted by user* means no fractal. Ignore my post (though the 6 birds for 84 attack comment is still valid)

finkel

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126870#msg126870
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 01:14:12 am »
@bojengles77: Scarabs don't gain attack for other scarabs on the field, and he specifically says:
Untamed is to prevent fractal and PU abuse.

bojengles77

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126872#msg126872
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 01:15:17 am »
@bojengles77: Scarabs don't gain attack for other scarabs on the field, and he specifically says:
Untamed is to prevent fractal and PU abuse.
don't worry, i've edited that post about 3 times in the time you were writing this post ><. Reread it, all fix'd. Anyways the scarab comment was rooted in the fact that each gain a swarm benefit from fractaling.

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126905#msg126905
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 02:03:31 am »
My immediate thought was that fractal would make this card OP. However, at a cost of either 4 :air or 5 :air , and in comparison to scarabs at only 2 :time cost also with a swarm ability, so fractal wouldn't be so terrible.

My one questions : Why falcons?

edit: actually, thinking about the card more. 2 cards with 10 :air cost would yield 2 6/2 creature (12 attack) - not so bad, they're vulnerable at 2 hp. However, having 6 of these out for 30 :air (less than 3 dragons for 39 attack) would yield 14x6 = 84 attack. Thinking back, a duo deck would have a decent amount of :air quanta, so fractal might make these overpowered for an OTK deck, or close to it.

second edit: failfail, *can't be targeted by user* means no fractal. Ignore my post (though the 6 birds for 84 attack comment is still valid)
Why falcons? I have no idea...I just like falcons...
It's a lot of damage, I'm sure, but one plague or rain of fire or eagle's eye will pretty much destroy a strategy and bringing 6 quints along is just...no.

Air needs a decent rush.

guolin

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126952#msg126952
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 03:13:18 am »
Mono-Air needs a decent rush.
Fix'd for you. And yeah, they do need a decent rush. I so want to copy "Untamed" to so many of my creature card ideas.  :))

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg126953#msg126953
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 03:20:36 am »
Mono-Air needs a decent rush.
Fix'd for you. And yeah, they do need a decent rush. I so want to copy "Untamed" to so many of my creature card ideas.  :))
I found a way to counter fractal without making it immortal  :P
And yes, I meant mono air. Dragons just don't always suffice. Any suggestions to this card?

Kael Hate

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg127897#msg127897
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 02:25:09 pm »
Cards can only have 2 passives at this time.
But the active skill that appears underneath the creature when on the field need not be one that activates.
Farenheits ability is an active skill for example.

Why did you choose falcons if you intended them to flock? Falcons are solitary birds.

dberube4

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg127899#msg127899
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 02:26:17 pm »
I don't like when the pictures are from google

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg128318#msg128318
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2010, 01:33:48 am »
Cards can only have 2 passives at this time.
But the active skill that appears underneath the creature when on the field need not be one that activates.
Farenheits ability is an active skill for example.

Why did you choose falcons if you intended them to flock? Falcons are solitary birds.
My bad. This could easily be changed to another bird, I guess. But I don't know a lot of predator birds that hunt in packs...

I don't like when the pictures are from google
I have no artistic skill. Perhaps you could draw one for me?

Kael Hate

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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg128363#msg128363
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 03:37:57 am »
Why did you choose falcons if you intended them to flock? Falcons are solitary birds.
My bad. This could easily be changed to another bird, I guess. But I don't know a lot of predator birds that hunt in packs...
I don't think there is. Being a Bird of Prey means a solo attack style.

Birds that flock to hunt are gatherers like Flamingoes and Magpies.


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Re: Falcon | Sky Falcon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10322.msg128366#msg128366
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2010, 03:39:56 am »
Why did you choose falcons if you intended them to flock? Falcons are solitary birds.
My bad. This could easily be changed to another bird, I guess. But I don't know a lot of predator birds that hunt in packs...
I don't think there is. Being a Bird of Prey means a solo attack style.

Birds that flock to hunt are gatherers like Flamingoes and Magpies.
Hmm. Do you think that would be good in the form of an elements fantasy card game?
But since elements isn't realistic anyways (the creatures, anyways) I wonder if it would be possible to make a few changes like "Skydivers" but have the same look/concept as a falcon.

 

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