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Ensnaring Scrub | Ensnaring Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg66927#msg66927
« on: May 11, 2010, 12:54:57 pm »
Hi,
here is the repost of my older idea for a life spell. I changed the the ability a little bit and added pictures to the cards.

NAME:
Ensnaring Scrub
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
- | -
ABILITY:
The target gains -2 | -0. The target gets ensnared and can't attack after using an active abilty.
NAME:
Ensnaring Forest
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
- | -
ABILITY:
Every enemy creature gain -1 | -0. They get ensnared and can't attack after using a active ability.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/ (http://www.sxc.hu/)
IDEA:
Schattenfresser
NOTES:
* old thread: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3159.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3159.0.html)
* the status Ensnared works as long as the creature lives
* Ensnared works like the time shield when the enchanted creature use an active ability
SERIES:
-

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Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg66947#msg66947
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 02:29:06 pm »
The upped can reduce the damage your opponent does by 69 and make it have to choose between the ability or attack for only 3 quantum?

Really, really powerful.

Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg67685#msg67685
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 06:52:56 pm »
Yeah, it would make many creatures useless, but when I'm changed the card I didn't think so much about it.  :-[
The card should be more balanced when I decrease the effect to -1|-0 and increasing the cost by 1.

Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg71285#msg71285
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 07:46:06 pm »
I changed the Thorny Forest:
* increasing the cost to 5 :life
* decreasing the attack reduce to -1

Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg71361#msg71361
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 09:08:02 pm »
I like the idea, but giving -1 and the ability thing seems a bit much.  The card would still be really usable even if it didn't do anything to opponent stats. 

This doesn't target a particular creature, so does that mean it will effect Quinted ones as well?  This could be a solution to quinted Oty.  Can ensnared be lobotomized off?

Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg71395#msg71395
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 09:50:18 pm »
I like the idea, but giving -1 and the ability thing seems a bit much.  The card would still be really usable even if it didn't do anything to opponent stats. 

This doesn't target a particular creature, so does that mean it will effect Quinted ones as well?  This could be a solution to quinted Oty.  Can ensnared be lobotomized off?
The targeting works like every other field effect spells: it doesn't affect immortals. And you can't remove negative effects with lobotomize.
The attack decreasing is/was the main point of the idea, without it I could call it ensnare. :(

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Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg71850#msg71850
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 04:52:33 pm »
I think you mean "shrub" instead of "scrub."

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Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg71954#msg71954
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 08:37:33 pm »
Is the stat debuff permanent like the ability? If so I would suggest making both spells permanents so it's more obvious, plus it adds balance since the opponent can get rid of it.

The card names seem a tad off after the changes, an ensnaring forest should have a much larger debuff then scrub or shrub or w/e but the larger debuff causes balance issues. Perhaps the upgrade should be restraining brush or something? Plants of similar size to scrubs/shrubs logically have comparable debuffs but the quantity allows it to affect all the opponent's creatures.

Other than that, I think it's an interesting card, spreads ability control to another element at least.

Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg72143#msg72143
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 03:13:37 am »
Is the stat debuff permanent like the ability? If so I would suggest making both spells permanents so it's more obvious, plus it adds balance since the opponent can get rid of it.

The card names seem a tad off after the changes, an ensnaring forest should have a much larger debuff then scrub or shrub or w/e but the larger debuff causes balance issues. Perhaps the upgrade should be restraining brush or something? Plants of similar size to scrubs/shrubs logically have comparable debuffs but the quantity allows it to affect all the opponent's creatures.
Every attack change is permanent as long it doesn't say otherwise. And I think forest is ok because you can avoid the trees easier as scrubs. But I can change the name when it would suit better.

I think you mean "shrub" instead of "scrub."
Isn't it almost the same?

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Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg72229#msg72229
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 07:40:35 am »
I think you mean "shrub" instead of "scrub."
Isn't it almost the same?
They are different things. I suggest you use 'Scrub'.

scrub   /skrʌb/  Show Spelled[skruhb]  Show IPA
–noun
1.low trees or shrubs collectively.
2.a large area covered with low trees and shrubs, as the Australian bush.

shrub 1  (shrŭb)   
n.  A woody plant of relatively low height, having several stems arising from the base and lacking a single trunk; a bush.

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Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg72243#msg72243
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 08:30:10 am »
scrub == shrubbery :)

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Re: Restraining Scrubs | Restraining Forest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6445.msg72383#msg72383
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 03:08:03 pm »
scrub == shrubbery :)
Shrubbery == lots of shrubs, you step over it.

Scrub == Shrubs, low trees etc, a net of green and brownery that is extremely difficult to move through easily.


I used to live in the bush and play in scrubland. Its a fun place if you know what you are doing and a scary place if you don't.

 

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