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Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg105112#msg105112
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 03:42:41 am »
has anyone done the math on how this & leaf dragon would work out in the same deck? It seems to me it may be possible to get infinite quanta by shuffling to get :light then photosynthesis to get :life :life

I'd try to run through the odds myself, but I don't know how the random quanta shuffling algorithm works in this game

Basically if at any point you could gain more quanta by doubling :light via photosynthesis then it would cost to reshuffle your quanta with the cultist you could do an infinite quanta loop

If this is the case maybe you could make the ability free, but only usable once per turn?

Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg105590#msg105590
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 03:26:46 pm »
has anyone done the math on how this & leaf dragon would work out in the same deck? It seems to me it may be possible to get infinite quanta by shuffling to get :light then photosynthesis to get :life :life

I'd try to run through the odds myself, but I don't know how the random quanta shuffling algorithm works in this game

Basically if at any point you could gain more quanta by doubling :light via photosynthesis then it would cost to reshuffle your quanta with the cultist you could do an infinite quanta loop

If this is the case maybe you could make the ability free, but only usable once per turn?
That is a problem. :o
And it shouldn't need a lot quanta to have to gain atleast 2/1 :light per Alteration.
The problem is that the multiple use is an important point of the ability as one shuffle per turn would make much difference.
But I could increase the ability costs for both version by 1 and add something new to the ability: every activation raises the ability cost by 1 for 1 turn. That would make it impossible to produce infinitive quantum.

Resume: the changes could be:
* increasing the ability cost of both versions by one
* every activation raises the cost by 1 for 1 turn

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Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg105823#msg105823
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2010, 09:26:55 pm »
why not just say while on field leaf dragons are time stuck?/frozen/die/ cn only use ability once per turn

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Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg105980#msg105980
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2010, 01:22:53 am »
dont raise the base cost, but raise by 1 for each use in a given turn is good. unless rustler isnt a problem.
changing rustlers when this is in play wouldnt make sense

Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg108429#msg108429
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2010, 06:21:06 pm »
why not just say while on field leaf dragons are time stuck?/frozen/die/ cn only use ability once per turn
That would be to complicated.

dont raise the base cost, but raise by 1 for each use in a given turn is good. unless rustler isnt a problem.
changing rustlers when this is in play wouldnt make sense
The problem is that I can't completly remove the mechanic, I can only make it more difficult to use it. That's why I trend to change both.
I wait a little bit for some additional opinions before I change the card.

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Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg108446#msg108446
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2010, 06:49:00 pm »
raise the cost?

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Re: Chaotic Cultist | Chaotic Priest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7375.msg108705#msg108705
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 02:09:08 am »
how about you can only do it 4 times in a turn. or the price goes up by one for each time after the second. or something like that. itd be weird coding to change rustlers to match this

 

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