Everything about plat right now has gone wild. I(jooe15) was talking to a guy in kong chat (Mathematistic), and he had a pretty good good explanation of what he thinks is happening. So uh.. I'll paste that too.
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Kong Chat:
APR 20 - 12:56AM
Mathematistic: wtf is happening to plat?
Mathematistic: did someone figure out an ultra grinder?
jooe15: idk..
jooe15: no idea
APR 20 - 12:57AM
Mathematistic: I submitted a new deck and it's rank 15
Mathematistic: seriously
APR 20 - 12:58AM
Mathematistic: something's definitely wrong
jooe15: ya..
APR 20 - 1:02AM
jooe15: 1 hp decks back to being rare now :P
EirosAurora: PVP 2!
APR 20 - 1:03AM
jooe15: Why O-o
APR 20 - 1:04AM
Mathematistic: It seems that whoever this grinding guy is, he/she/it (could be a bot) has a winrate of about 30%
jooe15: Whom?
APR 20 - 1:05AM
Mathematistic: Or maybe it's just a band of people playing Pdials 24/7...
APR 20 - 1:06AM
Mathematistic: Oh and Plat is 205 now
APR 20 - 1:08AM
Mathematistic: Normally I don't visit the forums anymore, but it seems that even they are aware of the problem
Mathematistic: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/arena-bug/plat-arena-behaving-oddly/
APR 20 - 1:09AM
jooe15: I posted it in chat :S
Mathematistic: I see, yeah the frequency of plays...
APR 20 - 1:13AM
jooe15: I can understand somebody playing a ton, but that doesn't help solve why their are so many 1 hp decks
jooe15: there*
mukund135: hmm, i have a guess
APR 20 - 1:14AM
mukund135: 2 bots. one that plays and fights the good decks + auto-concedes to 1hp decks
mukund135: then another on the "main" account that simply runs through and tries to beat everyone
jooe15: ah...
APR 20 - 1:15AM
mukund135: since the 1hp decks keep winning from bot1, they get pushed up in rating and so bot2 can get them more often
APR 20 - 1:16AM
Mathematistic: Not just 1hp decks, a lot of old decks are getting uprates
jooe15: do you think bot 2 is simply a player? if so, how would we find him/her?
jooe15: it would look just like any other player
mukund135: no idea
Mathematistic: There's nothing abnormal about the winrate, the amount of plays is the wrong stat
jooe15: :/
APR 20 - 1:17AM
Mathematistic: wrong as in fishy
jooe15: Ah..
APR 20 - 1:18AM
Mathematistic: And given how easy it is to play Pdials near-optimally
Mathematistic: with a protocol
jooe15: I see...
Mathematistic: May not even be Pdials, could be Kamikaze (that explains the water mark losses)
APR 20 - 1:19AM
jooe15: Ah..
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[10:05:34 PM] ‹MeowMeowCat› plat has catapulted off it's rocker and currently approaches interstellar space
CREDIT TO ROOTRANGER FOR QUOTE
Congratulations, your ugly SoDstalls destroyed Plat Arena as well. I don't get it why is it so important to rule over the debris forever.
Shame on you toros & co, may you have only such sort of happiness in life.
Other than that if Zanz happens to pop up for one last time at least he should purge Arenas and rewrite scoring, because it is pretty annoying
how age and the number of wins matters more than win/loss ratio (and ofc delete the thumbs system). A loss means only a laughable -40 points!
You may ask why do I have a :light mark deck as well for such a long time. No point in making new deck since months,
when this crap started. At that time I made a Light Nymph deck to see how far can it go.
You are right about one thing. I shouldn't have complained about it AGAIN publicly. About half year passed, and it is still
the same, and it makes me always angry when I look at the arenas.
www, it isn't SoD decks alone. They are just a mean to abuse the ranking system in arena. The problems are:
- only minus 40 score for a loss;
- number of wins matter more than win/loss ratio;
- as you get a higher position/score you get more points for a win;
- unneeded thumbs up system (why including sympathy into a system which should value good decks?);
- arena generally played by newcomers and they will get often beaten by those SoD decks.
All these together will mean that you can have tons of losses (see Sapart at #3 - he was around #200 for years,
but the sudden change in economics propelled him to the top), while scraping in a few random wins with T1 SoD.
The only change happened in SoD decks that they became a bit more aggro, having Light Nymphs or Dragons, too.
Someone even used Hope, while toros applying his usual vader sadering. Add the stupid filler accounts which
effectively killed bronze arena (new decks quickly getting NEGATIVE scores and disappearing from the top500
forever).
What confirms its usage is that its usage is allowed.
Because of this quarantine situation there were a lot of archived materials in the television from earlier Olympics.
It was fun to relive those moments. Ofc there were bitter memories as well, but there was something that outright
shocked me. 2004 Olympics France vs Hungary women handball. We had quite a good lead for most of the match,
but eventually lost mostly because the French side started playing more aggressively. After the match there were
short interviews. The French team had a Hungary-born player, so they asked her as well about their victory.
She said (not word by word): we saw that the referees today allow the more aggressive play, so we played by
that and eventually won.
So, yes. The usage is allowed. That is what disgusts me. The referee is complacent and allows brutal play?
OK, let's do that and win! By this reasoning the banking system is totally cool, everybody should do the same.
What bugs me is you talking on you high horse about compromising for the greater good and implicating everyone who does not follow suit has a flawed character.
Nobody is perfect. In my view they are imperfect because cheesefest winning is more important them
than playing fairly. It is very common that people who play together something (be it a board game or sports)
agree about not cheesing.
It pains me how you don't understand me. Online games show the flaws of human behaviour they reflect societies perfectly.
It isn't the first time for me to experience this. For example I played Diablo II for years. That sort of elitism, where the
level 95+ players thought they are some sort of deities who has the rights to maintain the resources of the game. They figured
out unwritten rules just to maintain their status quo. Won't tell you examples, because dunno how much you know about the actual game.
And if you understand me (but react like this) that's even worse.
moe don't take my words personally, please. You started defending the exploiters, which obviously pissed me.
I have no problems with you, playing against you is always a good experience, you are a fair player.