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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1266265#msg1266265
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2017, 02:39:21 am »
Posting here because I think it's more appropriate:

The same reason most card design competitions don't allow card art, or in the case of CDW3, provided it. The main focus is the writing aspect. The last time I put up a poll asking if a comp should be a combo comp, it was pretty soundly rejected, with like 7-1 against in the first day. If more people think and post here that images should be less restricted, or otherwise changed, I'll put up a poll.

Hierarchy? Because:

1) despite the poll's start, that wound up as only 11-8 against
2) 300 words per deck enabled writing-heavy submissions anyways

Not that I disagree with pre-selected images for Yellow Journalism - I think it's a really good idea to have such a framework outside of CDW, plus it fits the theme, and the selection of images available currently is more than sufficient and well-thought out - but in general I don't think how Hierarchy played out should be a reason to avoid hybrid competitions in the future.

In fact, I'd like to see more competitions where participants have a choice between focusing on the primary class of competition, or adding elements of a second. Hierarchy would have been perfect for that if it had been branded as such, for example. Just briefly looking over the submissions, there seems to be some, but not too much, correlation between words-per-deck and votes. So a future deckbuilding competition that allows writing, but doesn't require it, could see a similar pattern - submissions benefiting from writing, but not necessarily needing them.
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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1271733#msg1271733
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2017, 03:12:34 am »
The voting for the current competition 'Help Wanted' feels extremely lengthy and unorganized.

Lengthy:
I would be happier going to a designated survey link to vote rather than scrolling past all these polls on every single page.

Unorganized:
I can't see any clear, distinct place for me to go to see the various things I'm voting on. I might as well just be voting on what has the best name if I don't want to put lots of time and effort into scrolling down each page and reading through various posts. It'd be a lot better to just have one clear official post I can read through for details rather than having to comb the entire topic. Right now I feel like I'd need 3 or more windows open to efficiently vote. One with the voting options, and two with different pages open to check for the option I want to look up (which I would have to ctrl+f for within each individual page until I find it).

That all said, I love the idea of Help Wanted. It seems like a really neat idea, and it's clear how much work you put into it already. I was planning to at least participate in the voting but currently, it feels like a chore to do so.

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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1271734#msg1271734
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2017, 04:08:21 am »
The voting for the current competition 'Help Wanted' feels extremely lengthy and unorganized.

Lengthy:
I would be happier going to a designated survey link to vote rather than scrolling past all these polls on every single page.

Unorganized:
I can't see any clear, distinct place for me to go to see the various things I'm voting on. I might as well just be voting on what has the best name if I don't want to put lots of time and effort into scrolling down each page and reading through various posts. It'd be a lot better to just have one clear official post I can read through for details rather than having to comb the entire topic. Right now I feel like I'd need 3 or more windows open to efficiently vote. One with the voting options, and two with different pages open to check for the option I want to look up (which I would have to ctrl+f for within each individual page until I find it).

That all said, I love the idea of Help Wanted. It seems like a really neat idea, and it's clear how much work you put into it already. I was planning to at least participate in the voting but currently, it feels like a chore to do so.

Lengthy-- can't argue with you there! A dedicated survey platform might work better with a competition at this scale; it's definitely something we'll consider for the future.

Unorganized-- I knew I was forgetting something, heh. Several things, as Linkcat pointed out. War has a bad influence on my non-war forum attention. Apologies! The second post is indeed supposed to have the images side by side, but I wanted to wait until all the cards were in their finalized forms to avoid going in and changing things mid-way. There's still over two weeks of voting, and I hope to have some of the finishing touches done soon.
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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1271755#msg1271755
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2017, 10:18:58 am »
is a problem for a competition so long give first, second and third place icon, or first place and mvp/community vote for something?
spending time doing 10+ cards for probably no prize discourage everyone in doing things

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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1271776#msg1271776
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2017, 02:28:30 pm »
is a problem for a competition so long give first, second and third place icon, or first place and mvp/community vote for something?
spending time doing 10+ cards for probably no prize discourage everyone in doing things
If more people want this, we'd be happy to adjust, but the status quo exists to counteract "icon inflation," whatever that means.
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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1271801#msg1271801
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2017, 04:12:04 am »
Thanks for addressing my concerns so quickly Aves! I really appreciate all the work you put into this, it's very impressive!

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Re: Competition Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43568.msg1271806#msg1271806
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2017, 08:45:20 am »
PvP Events only give out one icon. There's no reason for Competitions of the same size to give out more than one, no matter how nice a Card Design War icon would have looked on my profile.

Also, what killed Help Wanted was having one long deadline for the whole design phase. This will never work for anything on this forum anymore. See Leagues for another example.
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