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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1026044#msg1026044
« Reply #144 on: December 27, 2012, 09:51:24 am »
Because there hadn't been an update for several months.  Things will get moving again when 1.32 is released.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1026172#msg1026172
« Reply #145 on: December 27, 2012, 08:30:42 pm »
what happened to CCYB? i'm a player from years ago and i can't find the deck at all on the forums. i still have my old ccyb deck, and it still works fine, so why isn't it in the recommended decks?

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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1026173#msg1026173
« Reply #146 on: December 27, 2012, 08:35:07 pm »
Because the current list of decks are recommended more by the community due to popularity, efficiency, etc.

That's not to say that CCYB doesn't work anymore, it's just a bit behind on the times.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1026256#msg1026256
« Reply #147 on: December 28, 2012, 05:34:32 am »
what happened to CCYB? i'm a player from years ago and i can't find the deck at all on the forums. i still have my old ccyb deck, and it still works fine, so why isn't it in the recommended decks?
You could post the deck yourself along with stats for 1.31/1.32. Most people don't use CCYB anymore, but if you could show people its efficiency/winrate it would become popular again.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1028629#msg1028629
« Reply #148 on: January 05, 2013, 03:22:33 am »
In light of the 1.32 update, several of the decks which are no longer usable as of 1.32 will be removed from the first two posts of each CRD thread.  My plan is to update this again towards the end of the month, which means that having you, the community, revive this section is more important now than ever.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1029088#msg1029088
« Reply #149 on: January 06, 2013, 02:46:36 am »
There's been amazingly little action here. Am I the only one suggesting decks here?
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1029117#msg1029117
« Reply #150 on: January 06, 2013, 04:00:40 am »
Would putting stats next to each of the decks in each thread be useful in anyone else's opinion?
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1029129#msg1029129
« Reply #151 on: January 06, 2013, 04:27:02 am »
There's been amazingly little action here. Am I the only one suggesting decks here?

1.32 hasn't been here very long yet.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1035709#msg1035709
« Reply #152 on: January 26, 2013, 03:28:58 pm »
Gravitybow is certainly a good grinder and I've recommended the unupped version to quite a few people at Kongregate. Not to mention that I used it myself, it really works very well. :)
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1035716#msg1035716
« Reply #153 on: January 26, 2013, 04:01:08 pm »
Would putting stats next to each of the decks in each thread be useful in anyone else's opinion?

I recommend it actually , stats would be a great metric .
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1037432#msg1037432
« Reply #154 on: February 01, 2013, 01:17:58 am »
Stuff updated.  If you find a broken link, wrong mark code, or I've forgotten how to say my ABC's, send me a PM and I'll fix it ASAP.
I'll also note that there's a disturbing lack of upped decks for AI3 when people back in the day spent hours perfecting decks to farm elders like madmen that still work today.

Concerning stats:  These will not be added to the opening post for the following reasons:
1)  The decks in the first two posts are intended to generate a list of the top 5 decks that you'd expect to be recommended to someone if they ask "What's a good/fun deck to grind X?" and without bias as to what the #1 deck is.  While decks with higher winrates do tend to become more popular than other decks of the same opponent grinding level, fun and ease of access (mainly for unupped decks) are also important factors.  Therefore if people notice that a deck is missing a list of stats then that will most likely cause them to conclude that either the deck's winrate is too low for it to be mentioned or that the deck creator was just too lazy to record them.  In either case, their interest in the other decks on the list is going to increase when the list is supposed to remain unbiased as far as outside influences go.

2)  If stats are ever added to the opening posts then it will likely become required that these decks post their losses, wins, time/turns to win, etc. for at least 200 games.  There's a terrible amount of variance that goes on in 50-100 games depending on the opponent level you're facing, and as such a person playing 50 games with a deck in Gold League may find themselves with a 90%+ winrate one day and then 60% the next.  However, that doesn't really mean that their deck had a 90% winrate, and therefore that value would be very misleading to whoever is considering taking the deck for a spin.  Even 200 games is still too few (in my opinion) to really get an accurate winrate estimate against FGs and Arena, but if we were to raise that requirement to 500-1000 then I suspect most people wouldn't bother with stats to begin with.

On a final note, to those who are considering submitting a deck in this section that have also done so in the past:  Please make a new post rather than modify your older post(s).  I don't mind if you post multiple decks at the same time, but if you're adding a new deck to a post you made over a month ago then there's a high chance that I'll assume I've already added it to the lists I have and miss it entirely.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg1037459#msg1037459
« Reply #155 on: February 01, 2013, 02:13:42 am »
Hmm true willing3. Very true. I think that some of that has even been said before when it was suggested, as it seemed very deja-vuish and familiar to me as I read it.

 

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