*Author

Offline xn0izeTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 968
  • Reputation Power: 12
  • xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • IT IZ A ME, X NOIZEY.
  • Awards: Championship League 3/2015 1st PlaceSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2014 1st PlaceWar #4 Winner - Team DeathSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209743#msg1209743
« on: October 11, 2015, 04:04:34 pm »
NAME:
Skeleton King
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
7 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 8
TEXT:
:death : Sacrifice your skeletons. inflict X poison damage and gain X attack this turn. X is how many were sacrificed.
NAME:
Skeleton Overlord
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
7 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 11
TEXT:
:death : Sacrifice your skeletons. inflict X poison damage and gain X attack this turn. X is how many were sacrificed.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
xn0ize
NOTES:

SERIES:

« Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 02:53:29 pm by xn0ize »
:death Trials 4# Blonde too strong.
Team :death War - 1st place

CL 2/2014 1713 points, 1st place.
Team Air War 9#  :air :air :air

Offline xray1324

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 286
  • Country: gb
  • Reputation Power: 6
  • xray1324 is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Xray1324, IGN: ElementalNinja.
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209744#msg1209744
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 04:07:59 pm »
one of these + skeleton fractal = OP.
tone it down might help

Offline Zyardran

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2848
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 47
  • Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Zyardran is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • Not too close, I'll burn you
  • Awards: No Cheese II Tourney Most Creative DeckWeekly Tournament Winner (2020.09.20.)Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeBrawl #7 Winner - Green NightSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeChampionship League 3/2016 3rd PlaceSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeTeam Competition - The Spy Who EMed MeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209746#msg1209746
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 04:09:03 pm »
one of these + skeleton fractal = OP.
tone it down might help
That's why the cost is so high. It's fine imo
Team :entropy War #14
The :light of my :fire guides the way...
Current profile picture

Offline ZephyrPhantom

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209747#msg1209747
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 04:10:24 pm »
one of these + skeleton fractal = OP.
tone it down might help
That's a three-card  combo for an attempted 'OTK' (for lack of a better way to describe it) that deals net....22-ish poison in the best case scenario? (read: no duplicate kings were played and your entire field has skellies) If anything, I think this is fair for a combo that costs less than Dragons - possibly even underpowered.

Offline xn0izeTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 968
  • Reputation Power: 12
  • xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • IT IZ A ME, X NOIZEY.
  • Awards: Championship League 3/2015 1st PlaceSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2014 1st PlaceWar #4 Winner - Team DeathSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209748#msg1209748
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2015, 04:11:11 pm »
one of these + skeleton fractal = OP.
tone it down might help

Only way to tone this card down is lower the stats, and increase price, i made this just now and it took me about 20 seconds to decide on the stats, but i think this is fine or close to fine, might be wrong, i would love criticism nonetheless.
:death Trials 4# Blonde too strong.
Team :death War - 1st place

CL 2/2014 1713 points, 1st place.
Team Air War 9#  :air :air :air

Offline Monox D. I-Fly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1143
  • Country: id
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • Monox D. I-Fly is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Always use Water element in any CCGs
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209755#msg1209755
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2015, 05:13:26 pm »
At first I thought the skill would be something like  :darkness :darkness : Generate a Skeleton. Glad it's something different.
My idealized elements cycle:
Water -> Fire -> Air -> Earth -> Lightning -> Metal -> Light -> Darkness -> Wood -> Water

Offline serprex

  • Administrator
  • ********
  • Posts: 2237
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • serprex hides under a Cloak.
  • Awards: War #12 Winner - Team Darkness
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209813#msg1209813
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 12:14:41 am »
Opposite of OP

Offline Espithel

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2705
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Espithel hides under a Cloak.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeGive us the video.Slice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeZanz Christmas Present Competition - Winner
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209851#msg1209851
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 07:26:51 am »
If this practically requires fractal to be used, I'll just stick to mummy/fleshtal, please.

Offline xn0izeTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 968
  • Reputation Power: 12
  • xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • IT IZ A ME, X NOIZEY.
  • Awards: Championship League 3/2015 1st PlaceSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2014 1st PlaceWar #4 Winner - Team DeathSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209863#msg1209863
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 09:02:33 am »
If this practically requires fractal to be used, I'll just stick to mummy/fleshtal, please.

Cats with graveyards, Fractal viruses with graveyard, any deck that has alot of CC, with graveyard.
All of those have synergy with the bonewall, you're on the offense while empowering your defense.

I was thinking maybe the command dead will also inflict 1 damage for every skeleton that's sacrificed.
:death Trials 4# Blonde too strong.
Team :death War - 1st place

CL 2/2014 1713 points, 1st place.
Team Air War 9#  :air :air :air

Offline OdinVanguard

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4984
  • Reputation Power: 67
  • OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.OdinVanguard walks among the Immortals, legends and guardians of all time.
  • Keeping The Jotnar at bay
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1209959#msg1209959
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 06:30:48 pm »

one of these + skeleton fractal = OP.
tone it down might help
So... thats 3 cards, 15+ :death (7 for this card plus 8 for the 8 skeletons), 10 :aether (plus absorb all remaining :aether ) for a total of 8 poison.
That is NOT by any means OP man.

Sure, the sacrifice part could help bolster a bonewall, but that further increases the card count and quanta requirement for the combo.

In openEtG I would be a little more inclined to agree with you since skeletons were buffed to have 0 cost... But even then, its still over 18 :underworld and 3 cards for a mere 8 poison... maybe 9 and thats stretching it.

I tend to produce cards that ere too far to the UP side so when I say this thing is not OP its probably a good sign that it could even use a slight buff...

There are far more efficient poison combos.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 06:33:33 pm by OdinVanguard »
Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
If your zombie plan is
kill -9 `ps l | awk '{print $2" "$3" "$9}' | grep "Z" | awk '{printf("%s ",$2)}'`
You might be a unix junky

Offline xn0izeTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 968
  • Reputation Power: 12
  • xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.xn0ize is taking their first peeks out of the Antlion's burrow.
  • IT IZ A ME, X NOIZEY.
  • Awards: Championship League 3/2015 1st PlaceSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeChampionship League 2/2014 1st PlaceWar #4 Winner - Team DeathSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1210041#msg1210041
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2015, 06:39:39 am »
After much thought, I've two ideas how to make this card stronger and more viable.

First, what i wrote, Every skeleton sacrificed deals 1 poison and 1 damage.
Second, The king that used the command gains +1 attack for that turn for each skeleton sacrificed.

Would like to hear your thoughts/criticism/ideas tyvm <3
:death Trials 4# Blonde too strong.
Team :death War - 1st place

CL 2/2014 1713 points, 1st place.
Team Air War 9#  :air :air :air

Offline ZephyrPhantom

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: Skeleton King | Skeleton Overlord https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59973.msg1210045#msg1210045
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2015, 07:34:03 am »
After much thought, I've two ideas how to make this card stronger and more viable.

First, what i wrote, Every skeleton sacrificed deals 1 poison and 1 damage.
Second, The king that used the command gains +1 attack for that turn for each skeleton sacrificed.

Would like to hear your thoughts/criticism/ideas tyvm <3
While the first change sounds more practical, the second sounds potentially more fun. (Skeleton King + Skeletons + Chimera?) I'm in the favor of the second.

 

blarg: EmeraldTiger,xn0ize