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Title: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: OdinVanguard on September 03, 2015, 07:43:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/zhEWhJt.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZumKE1X.png)
NAME:
Shinigami
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
9 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8 | 1
TEXT:
Immune to creature targeting.
:death :death :death Death-Knell: Target creature dies after N turns.
N = square root of card cost.
NAME:
Shinigami
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
9 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
9 | 1
TEXT:
Immune to creature targeting.
:death :death Death-Knell: Target creature dies after N turns.
N = square root of card cost.

ART:
Original art source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinigami#/media/File:Nariaiji2559.jpg

Modified by OdinVanguard
IDEA:
OdinVanguard
NOTES:
"Today the old must give way to the new"

"Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee. (Ernest Hemingway)"

The calculation rounds up. This helps nudge the effect's power down a little. If it needs to be stronger, rounding down can be used instead

cost = 0 -> instant death
cost = 1 -> dies in 1 turn
cost = 2 - 4 -> dies in 2 turns
cost = 5 - 9 -> dies in 3 turns
cost = 10 - 15 -> dies in 4 turns

Turns are counted off at the time a creature attacks.

The "immune to creature targeting" means that creatures cannot target the Shinigami.
Spells, weapons, and other permanents can still target it.

Thematic references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinigami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinigami_(Death_Note)
SERIES:

Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: Zyardran on September 03, 2015, 08:22:39 pm
I have nothing to say about this other than it is an interesting idea, but one question:
Why math?
Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: OdinVanguard on September 03, 2015, 08:28:44 pm
Quote from: Discord on September 03, 2015, 08:22:39 pm
I have nothing to say about this other than it is an interesting idea, but one question:
Why math?
It needs something better than N = cost.
Having it take 10 turns for a dragon to die is kind of pointless, but 4 turns is still viable via congeal and BB.

I could have went with a linear coefficient, but it seemed to either end up to weak at the high end or too strong at the mid to low end.

Plus... Math is good for you. Algebra teachers everywhere will thank me... I jest... mostly...
Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: foxrain4 on September 04, 2015, 12:31:26 pm
oddly, i find the "N = square root of card cost." to be satisfying
contrary to my usual opinion of no complicated math.

after summoning your creatures and see
it wiped out instantly the next round is unexciting,

the longer a creature stays in game,
the cooler the game gets.

Shinigami implements progressive removal of creatures
into the game which is a card making technique i have been seeking for.
Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: YumYum124816 on September 04, 2015, 04:28:15 pm
Isn't Death Note copyrighted? Are you sure that you can do that? Forgive me if I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: UndeadSpider1990 on September 04, 2015, 04:50:53 pm
I think YumYum raises a valid point. Calling it Shinigami is fine. Naming its ability Death Note is also fine. Doing the two together just doesn't seem like a coincidence anymore. I don't know if copyright is anything to worry about, but it does seem to very clearly (and a little oddly imo) reference a certain well-known anime. I'd change the ability name if it was up to me, but I don't see any real harm in keeping it as it is.

The card itself is fantastic. Dat art. Go Crucible!! ;D
Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: OdinVanguard on September 04, 2015, 05:44:28 pm
Hmm... I suppose so. I can change it to something else if it seems like an issue... "beckon" or "death curse" or something like that.
Title: Re: Shinigami | Shinigami
Post by: OdinVanguard on September 04, 2015, 08:33:24 pm
Updated.
Changed ability to "Death-Knell"
changed oracle fortune to match.
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