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Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159572#msg1159572
« on: October 10, 2014, 11:25:50 am »
NAME:
Mirror Shade
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
N | 4
TEXT:
Radiance:
N is the amount of quanta spent in your opponent's last turn, divided by 2.
NAME:
Mirror Ghast
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
N | 4
TEXT:
Radiance:
N is the amount of quanta spent in your opponent's last turn, divided by 2.

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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159573#msg1159573
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 11:29:22 am »
9.5/10
I can't find any flaws.
Perhaps lower the cost.

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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159576#msg1159576
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 11:39:51 am »
Would the skill activate right on summoning, or only next turn?
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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159587#msg1159587
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 12:44:13 pm »
Would the skill activate right on summoning, or only next turn?

I would assume it happens at the end of each turn, when it attacks, like Scarab.

Otherwise, I feel humbled now.
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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159602#msg1159602
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 01:55:28 pm »
Mirror Shade gets N ATK directly after being sent out. After doing damage at the end of your turn, it'll revert to zero ATK until your opponent uses quanta, in which case it'll gain ATK.
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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159607#msg1159607
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 02:27:51 pm »
Clear enough.

My second - more important - question: is there already a script or something that can keep track of  player's spent quanta for  turn?

Because as I saw so far card ideas mostly use already implemented features, in new and interesting combinations. This looks like something completely new
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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159609#msg1159609
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 02:38:13 pm »
In terms of code, the game doesn't keep track of anything it normally doesn't have to, like quanta spent last turn.

It can, however, keep track once a card in the game tells it to.

In terms of the Mirror Shade, this would currently mean that the card has 0 ATK until the turn after it is played, then track the quanta played last turn because of Mirror Shade, then do things.

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Re: Mirror Shade | Mirror Ghast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56023.msg1159648#msg1159648
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 04:59:10 pm »
So the ATK changes to N at the start of your turn (or when played for the first time) and then returns to 0 once it has attacked? Or it returns to 0 after attacking, then gains ATK dynamically during your opponent's turn, so that you start with N attack on your turn?

Also, it wasn't stated so, is ability cost counted as well as card cost? Is the ability passive or active (lobotomizable)?

Now that the questions are out of the way, this is a really neat idea. With one it doesn't really matter much, but once you get 3-5 of these out, you really begin to rethink whether or not you need that dragon :P . The effectiveness really depends on the deck you're facing. If you're playing against PDials, the effect isn't that great (no more than 3 attack per turn, I would say). Then again, if you're facing say a fractal deck, there'll be a lot of quanta spending between fractals and creatures for you to get in on.

I would be tempted to drop the unupped to 5 :light or maybe less, 6 seems just a tad to high. For 6 :time you can get a GotP with stats of 7|4, same HP but with a constant ATK of 7. I don't think the average of attack of this creature could ever compete with that. That is, your opponent won't be using an average of 14 quanta every turn, most of the time. For 5 :water, you can get a 6|4 toadfish; for 5 :entropy, a 5|5 abomination; for 5 :darkness, a 5|3 gargoyle. The expected stats seem output closer to these than of a 6 cost creature. Even now it seems a little tiny bit UP, or maybe it's just me. tl;dr, Upped is good, unupped is UP, because reasons.

And finally, I would change the card text to "...quanta spent during your opponent's last turn...". Might not make a huge difference but grammar and stuff
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