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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073691#msg1073691
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 02:46:48 am »
This on a Spark, Mitosis. Repeat.

Potentially bad?

Good idea though. Very thematic.
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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073702#msg1073702
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 03:37:00 am »
You would still need to buff the spark separately, because without a buff:
If you play this the turn the spark is summoned, it will not be able to use the skill immediately and will die before the summoning sickness wears off;
If you play this a turn after the spark is summoned... what spark?

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073706#msg1073706
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 03:53:36 am »
Yeah, what Cyanide said. And honestly, that argument could be applied to any other buff card and would be infinitely more valid, but I don't think there's anyone who thinks Spark + Buff + mitosis decks are some game breaking strategy xD
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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073914#msg1073914
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2013, 06:26:04 pm »
This is severely UP. Think of it as a Shard of Patience that only affects one creature, and only lasts for one turn. It is worse than that because if the one creature gets destroyed, you lose this card too.

I would recommend removing the delay and increasing the cost by  :entropy or so.

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073921#msg1073921
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2013, 06:32:00 pm »
If he does that, then it's much worse than other buff cards.

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073984#msg1073984
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 07:58:44 pm »
If he does that, then it's much worse than other buff cards.

I'm not sure what you mean by "worse." It is +5/+5 which is better than +3/+3. In some situations, +5/+5 is worse than +6/-6. It is definitely more expensive than the other buff cards, but +5/+5 is pretty beefy.

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073985#msg1073985
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2013, 07:59:37 pm »
Guys, it is not as UP as you may think. Delay effect can be used as CC instead of a buff and can lobotomize cruel skills like Reverse Time of a Flying Eternity or Crusader or whatever. However, I would reduce its cost to 2 :entropy while upped (otherwise it is too overshadowed by Chaos Power).
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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1073986#msg1073986
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 08:04:30 pm »
Alternative wording to reflect that of others.


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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1074013#msg1074013
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2013, 09:19:32 pm »
Guys, it is not as UP as you may think. Delay effect can be used as CC instead of a buff and can lobotomize cruel skills like Reverse Time of a Flying Eternity or Crusader or whatever. However, I would reduce its cost to 2 :entropy while upped (otherwise it is too overshadowed by Chaos Power).

I see what you mean. I still think it is UP though. Keeping the delay, I think it would be fine at :entropy :entropy:darkness :darkness unupped and  :entropy:darkness upped. Against an enemy creature, it is worse than freeze, but it is a good card since it is flexible.

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1074047#msg1074047
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2013, 10:14:16 pm »
If he does that, then it's much worse than other buff cards.

I'm not sure what you mean by "worse." It is +5/+5 which is better than +3/+3. In some situations, +5/+5 is worse than +6/-6. It is definitely more expensive than the other buff cards, but +5/+5 is pretty beefy.

By that argument, then crimson dragon is always better than photon. "It is definitely more expensive than the other buff creature cards, but +5/+5 12|3 is pretty beefy"

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1074065#msg1074065
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2013, 10:55:54 pm »
If he does that, then it's much worse than other buff cards.

I'm not sure what you mean by "worse." It is +5/+5 which is better than +3/+3. In some situations, +5/+5 is worse than +6/-6. It is definitely more expensive than the other buff cards, but +5/+5 is pretty beefy.

By that argument, then crimson dragon is always better than photon. "It is definitely more expensive than the other buff creature cards, but +5/+5 12|3 is pretty beefy"


No. By jawdirk's argument, Crimson Dragon is not always worse than Photon.

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Re: Liquid Madness | Liquid Madness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49403.msg1074071#msg1074071
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2013, 11:13:21 pm »
Hilarious wording ;D

 

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