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Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268842#msg1268842
« on: September 27, 2017, 08:08:07 AM »
NAME:
Kamikaze
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your creature is sacrificed. Dealing triple damage (If HP>Attack that your attack = 3xHP; If HP<Attack that your attack = 3xAttack; dmg=(Life Points + Attack)/2), but you receive 30% dmg. It only works on creatures from the deck Air, Aether, Fire
NAME:
Mass Kamikaze
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1 + (amount creatures * 2)
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your chosen creatures is sacrificed. Dealing triple damage (If HP>Attack that your attack = 3xHP; If HP<Attack that your attack = 3xAttack; dmg=(Life Points + Attack)/2), but you receive 30% dmg. It only works on creatures from the deck Air, Aether, Fire

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NOTES:
Risk card. This card does not work on gravity and darkness decks. (If your mark gravity and darkness)
SERIES:

« Last Edit: September 27, 2017, 05:06:22 PM by sparki2000 »

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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268845#msg1268845
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 10:13:24 AM »
Okay, here's a thing. We're not qualified card designers by any means, but we reckon it wouldn't work mainly because of how OP the card is compared to the other card that converts creatures into damage -  :gravity Catapult :gravity

One of the things that bug us is damage output. In Catapult's case we have a card that can deal about 50 damage in one attack, however it requires a quite ridiculous combo of Catapult, Titan, Freezing spell and Animate Weapon spell. You'd have to play that combo twice in order to defeat your opponent in a single turn, not to mention that it's easily counterable by Quintessence, Reverse Time and literally anything that has to do with permanent control. (It's also worth mentioning that this combo is actually quite expensive quanta-wise)

Here, however, we have something different - you'd only need a three card combo in order to win - Voodoo doll, Basilisk Blood and your Kamikaze, all of which can be powered by a single Supernova. Not only that, but it's also quite possible on getting all four cards in first turn. And while the "this card doesn't work on decks with Gravity/Darkness Mark" it's actually more likely that the card will end up in a rainbow deck with entropy mark or something.

Another thing that bugs us is that there's not potential counter to this. Catapult is easily destroyable or stealable, one BOOM and and there's no strategy left. Here we have a spell that turns a creature in, we take it, an unblockable damage, which really isn't great balance-wise.

I'd suggest rethinking the way the calculation works. Tripled unblockable damage doesn't sound good in any sort of scenario (See: Diving creatures + Shards of Freedom). Maybe something around 150% of HP would sound nicer
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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268849#msg1268849
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 11:10:47 AM »
I change injury calculation.

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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268853#msg1268853
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 01:48:13 PM »
"Sacrifice an allied creature. Deal damage to the opponent equal to half the total of that creature's HP and ATK.
Cast Kamikaze only on fire, aether, or air creatures."

This one was a bit hard. I think this is what you mean, but I am going to have to ask some questions.

Does this card sacrifice 1 creature, or all creatures?
And does this card care about the deck's mark, or the creature's element?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2017, 02:09:05 PM by Espithel »

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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268860#msg1268860
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 05:00:31 PM »
* This card color is  :rainbow. First I think get only play three color, but I that change and this moment open to all marks.
* This card was foreseen for sacrifice one creatures. But not a stupid idea with this mass kamikaze.

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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268898#msg1268898
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 12:48:43 PM »
In Catapult's case we have a card that can deal about 50 damage in one attack, however it requires a quite ridiculous combo of Catapult, Titan, Freezing spell and Animate Weapon spell.
What does the Freezing spell have to do with that combo?

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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268906#msg1268906
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 04:47:32 PM »
Catapult deals 50% more damage if the creature is frozen.
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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268939#msg1268939
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 02:37:40 PM »
It's not written in the card.

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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268941#msg1268941
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 03:03:14 PM »
It's not written in the card.

Lots of things aren't written in the cards. Like you being able to freeze opponents weapon by targeting them with an Ice bolt or something. Or mechanisms of work behind Adrenaline, Skull shields and so on. And while you can rant about how it's bad for the game that some features are missed and whatever, you have to keep in mind that there's only four short lines of text we can integrate in the card's description. Plus, the dev isn't coming back, so we wouldn't change anything even if we were right. Simplest solution for these sorts of things - read wiki, my pal c:
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Re: Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64913.msg1268949#msg1268949
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 11:18:06 PM »
Okay my pal.

 

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