Jungle Beast|Jungle Monster

[ZeCook]

NAME: Jungle Beast ELEMENT: Life COST: 6  TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 6|4 TEXT: Rush: Deal damage equal to the creature attack when played.	NAME: Jungle Monster ELEMENT: Life COST: 6  TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 8|4 TEXT: Rush: Deal damage equal to the creature attack when played.

ART: ZeCook IDEA: ZeCook NOTES: Edited everything thanks to OldTrees for the help

[OldTrees]

1) Why does Jungle beast have 0HP?
2) Why would anyone ever use Fade? It would cost 1 4 to do a mere 5 damage.
3) Why do these monsters have less HP than a frog?
4) Why do these Beasts do damage when played?

[ZeCook]

1: That way it dies after 1 turn
2: Then I'll change the cost of Jungle Beast.
3: Well... many creature have less HP than horned frog
4: That's the point of the card you can combine with reverse time, fractal. I tought it would have been interesting.


Maybe Jungle Beast could do 5 damage and cost 2 instead? Jungle Monster would cost 4 instead.

[OldTrees]

Why are Monsters more vulnerable than Frogs? It makes no sense.
What is the thematic reason for the Jungle Beast dealing damage when played?

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[ZeCook]

You really have something against me, scarabs can be less vulnerable than dragons you know, and for the thematic thing it is like if they were charging directly on your opponent. I don't want you to be mad at me for any reason you know haha. I have read your topic before posting you know haha.

[OldTrees]

I do not have anything against you.

I am trying to understand what your image of this card is so I can make suggestions to improve it.

Charging at the opponent makes sense. I wanted to make sure that I was not missing something more.

While scarabs swarms can become more resilient than reckless dragons, that does not explain why this card is so vulnerable. Again I am trying to understand so as to help make suggestions.

I still do not know a way to make this a Dark Life synergy (my favorite combo by the way). However why not

Unupped
Cost:6
Stats: 6|4
Effect: Deal 6 damage when played.

Upgraded
Cost:5
Stats: 7|4
Effect: Deal 7 damage when played.

[ZeCook]

Thank you Do I change the cost ? Well they don't have much life because I do not have enough space to say it dies after one turn haha. And for the monster i tought it would be nice to have a very strong creature that does not have much life, it is like if it has a very obvious weakpoint .

[ZeCook]

Sorry to double post but i've edited everything so what do you think of it now?

[OldTrees]

Looks good.

[LongDono]

It seems a little over powered. 6 Life for 8 damage when played, and 8 after it attacks. Thats really fast.
The unupped should cost 7 life I would guess and the unupped should cost 8-9 life.
On second thought compared to what lava detroyer can do this is perfectly ok.

[ZeCook]

Should I post them in the crucible ?

[OldTrees]

I would wait a day or so to see if you get more reactions.