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Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg453808#msg453808
« on: January 28, 2012, 09:27:37 am »
NAME:
Homunculus
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
:water :water Alchemy: Effect depends on mark.
NAME:
Homunculus
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
:water  Alchemy: Effect depends on mark.
ART:
Drake_XIV
IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
The idea was that a Homunculus is something born of alchemy.  While EtG puts the concept of alchemy under  :water , alchemy can be sometimes seen as the DARK side to magicks.  The ability, on the other hand is  :water since, as previously mentioned, that is WATER's domain and a creature born from alchemy should be able to use it.

Alchemy
The Marks correspond to the Alchemy spell that lies within their element.  These are also the abilities of Nymphs.
 :aether Quintessence
 :air Unstable Gas
 :gravity Black Hole
 :darkness Liquid Shadow
 :death Aflatoxin
 :earth Basilisk Blood
 :entropy Antimatter
 :fire Rage Potion
 :life Adrenaline
 :light Luciferin
 :time Precognition
 :water Nymph Tear's (Probably going to be changed)

Comparing it to the Nymphs, the cost could probably do better increased, but with it's stats and reliance on the Mark, it could be fine.
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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg453828#msg453828
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 10:18:08 am »
Ah.. having recently been watching FMA myself I know what inspired this card, and I must say that it's not exactly what I was hoping for.

Why would a homunculus be related to :darkness Darkness (outside of FMA)?
Why would a homunculus be related to alchemy (outside of FMA)?

Aside from all that, this card idea seems to make the nymphs lose their... unique qualities...

Maybe you should analyze what a homunculus really is and how it can be integrated into the game without too much influence from another franchise.
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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg454070#msg454070
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 09:20:24 pm »
Why? This just seems to make nymphs and nymph's tears more useless.

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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg454117#msg454117
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 11:01:28 pm »
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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg454136#msg454136
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 11:51:07 pm »
Entropy mark is too powerful compared to the other options.
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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg454682#msg454682
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 06:40:18 am »
Ah, finally got decent access to respond...

Quote from: Hyroen
Why would a homunculus be related to :darkness Darkness (outside of FMA)?
Why would a homunculus be related to alchemy (outside of FMA)?

Aside from all that, this card idea seems to make the nymphs lose their... unique qualities...

Maybe you should analyze what a homunculus really is and how it can be integrated into the game without too much influence from another franchise.
I am familiar with FMA, but that's not exactly where I got the concept from for its typing.  As I describe in the notes, alchemy, at least in other works I've read, has often been described as a darker study.  Also, as depicted in the aforementioned, but not limited to, FMA, the use of humans or the creation of living things artificially is often regarded as taboo, hence  :darkness .

As for ability, as described in the Wiki links provided by ET, homunculi are usually borne from alchemical attempts at recreating life.  Also, as I described in the Note, a creature born from alchemy should have a tiny bit of skill in it.

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Entropy mark is too powerful compared to the other options.
Yeah, I realized that earlier.  As soon as I have access to my computer, I'll edit the costs.

An idea I had rather late was simply to make the spell replace the ability.  It would take the initial  :water :water / :water to gain the skill as described in the Note, but the price would change to costs shown on the cards, if not equal to the Nymph's ability cost.

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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg454690#msg454690
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 06:57:58 am »
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Entropy mark is too powerful compared to the other options.
Yeah, I realized that earlier.  As soon as I have access to my computer, I'll edit the costs.

An idea I had rather late was simply to make the spell replace the ability.  It would take the initial  :water :water / :water to gain the skill as described in the Note, but the price would change to costs shown on the cards, if not equal to the Nymph's ability cost.
So a creature that with the input of  :water learns a Nymph's skill (with a good activation cost balance system)? A :water casting cost would enable this to be used in duo decks.

It would also put the alchemically creating being in the Element of Alchemy.
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Re: Homunculus | Homunculus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36085.msg454692#msg454692
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 07:00:51 am »
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