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Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230186#msg230186
« on: December 21, 2010, 04:57:26 pm »
NAME:
Hear Me Roar
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Both players are immune to Silence.
 :air :air :air: Shockwave
NAME:
Hear Me Roar
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Both players are immune to Silence.
 :air :air :air: Shockwave
ART:
http://www.blingcheese.com/image/code/116/lion+roar.htm
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Should be self-explanatory, any Silence card will be wasted while this is in play.
The Shockwave ability is as the spell Shockwave.
SERIES:
None
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230188#msg230188
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 05:00:00 pm »
When you save a card you have to type .png at the end of the card name. (I just had this problem.)

Looks balanced. Shockwave on a stick isn't that much better than Snipe.
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230190#msg230190
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 05:09:26 pm »
No, I couldn't even load the image builder.  Turns out my Flash player was out of date, it's fixed now and image is uploaded!

Possible deck concept with this: run Air off the mark, Water and Life pendulums.  Forest Spirits, Freeze/Shockwave.  Possibly even Arctic Squids...
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230192#msg230192
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 05:12:14 pm »
Probably Water mark. Squids, Forest Spirit and Ice Shield cost a lot of Water quanta.
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230194#msg230194
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 05:14:39 pm »
Yeah, you're right.  But dang, instant kills on sticks without regard to creature health??   ???

I wanted to give this more use than anti-Silence, so it wouldn't be the next Purify.  Turns out what I gave it may be more interesting than the anti-Silence!
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230206#msg230206
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 05:34:58 pm »
Your joking, right?

You go life mark with water and air pillars.  Minimal pendulums needed.

Spirits cost one, and once you have this and a squid out, it's game over.
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230210#msg230210
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 05:37:44 pm »
You think is too powerful, yes?

I'm not sure yet.  Maybe I'll put something else on this stick, it was on a whim and seemed interesting, and I haven't thought through the possible uses/abuses completely yet.
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230268#msg230268
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 06:57:22 pm »
The tactic we're talking about requires a trio deck, is vulnerable to both creature and permanent control, and requires :water :water :water :air :air :air per use.  Compare that to Elite Otyugh which can eat about half the creatures in the game for :gravity and can be easily buffed with a duo combination to cover nearly all creatures (Gravity Shield covers the rest).  Otyugh tactic is not vulnerable to permanent control.

Immortality of course plays a part as usual, just like with Otyugh.
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230385#msg230385
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 09:09:02 pm »
I'm having doubts on this one due to the shockwave ability.  I understand the need for an anti-silence card, but this CC can add up easier than Eagle's Eye and deal more damage as well (along with an insta-kill for frozen creatures).  I'd like a bit of breakdown explanation on how this card is balanced.  And there's really no need for Water, 4 damage is plenty.
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Re: Hear Me Roar | Hear Me Roar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18063.msg230416#msg230416
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 09:31:01 pm »
Eagle's Eye does only require one element, and against creatures with 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, or 9 health, it's far more efficient on quanta.  For creatures with 4, 7, 8, or 10+ health, this will perform better.  I started to list all the creatures, but it was a long list on either side.

Three possibilities here:
- Shockwave-on-a-stick is just plain broken, and I should pick something else.
- The card as it stands is too easy to abuse, and some kind of cost nerf is in order.
- This isn't overpowered - just powerful but balanced.
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