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Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199561#msg1199561
« on: August 03, 2015, 05:33:18 am »
This was my winner card for the Shield Competition, so I thought i'll give it a second chance.

NAME:
Focus Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 1.
Attacking creatures get -1|+1.
NAME:
Focus Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
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TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 1.
Attacking creatures get -1|+1.

NOTES:
Only those creatures are affected who are attacking through the shield, successfully damaging the user behind it.
Text under shield when in play: decelerate.
Antimattered creatures ignore this shield.

This card thematically fits with Gravity, because as gravity intensifies, all creatures who are affected will feel slower and heavier. Since all shields have a small one-word text under their slots in-game, i chose 'deceleration', because the effect is the opposite of Acceleration's.

The in-element Gravity Shield grants a possible synergy with the card, though this synergy would be the first which incorporates 2 different shields. The card also works as a standalone card in any gravity deck; damage reduction alone is something that gravity didn't have so far, but with deceleration, it slowly adds up.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199584#msg1199584
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 01:23:03 pm »
And once their HP reach 6, WHAM! Replace it with Gravity Shield.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199617#msg1199617
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 07:18:58 pm »
And once their HP reach 6, WHAM! Replace it with Gravity Shield.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199668#msg1199668
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2015, 03:41:32 am »
If an opposing creature had one HP with Acceleration/poison/whatever and hit this shield, would it die? Assume only one poison counter.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199717#msg1199717
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 10:24:54 am »
If an opposing creature had one HP with Acceleration/poison/whatever and hit this shield, would it die? Assume only one poison counter.
I might be wrong, but i think the game is coded in a way that HP effects always take place before shield effects. So the creature attacking through would die, but as i said, i'm not sure.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199724#msg1199724
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 12:05:59 pm »
easily tested with purify and fire shield

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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199726#msg1199726
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 12:08:05 pm »
HP changes go first. I know because I tested overdriven Guards against Gravity Shield a lot.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199727#msg1199727
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2015, 12:09:57 pm »
If an opposing creature had one HP with Acceleration/poison/whatever and hit this shield, would it die? Assume only one poison counter.
I might be wrong, but i think the game is coded in a way that HP effects always take place before shield effects. So the creature attacking through would die, but as i said, i'm not sure.
HP changes go first. I know because I tested overdriven Guards against Gravity Shield a lot.

A 3|3 with 3 poison counters was turned into a Skeleton by Skull Shield. So I think Shield effects have priority over poison counters but I may be remembering the "reduced to 0hp" case wrong.

Someone should test the purify vs fire shield case.
Edit: A 2|1 with Purify died to Fire Buckler. I think this implies shields have priority over hp status effects.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 12:19:05 pm by OldTrees »
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199731#msg1199731
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 12:26:09 pm »
Hm, must depend on the Shield, then. I tested OD Guards one more time now with the same result: An OD 6 HP Guard attacks through Gravity Shield.
Maybe, both shield and HP changes come into effect at the same time?
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199733#msg1199733
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 12:29:11 pm »
Maybe different status effects have different priority:

1. Accel|Overdrive
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199736#msg1199736
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2015, 01:08:14 pm »
Acceleration is an ability, so it's not odd that it happens at a different time than poison.
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Re: Focus Shield | Focus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59080.msg1199751#msg1199751
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2015, 03:53:50 pm »
Hm, must depend on the Shield, then. I tested OD Guards one more time now with the same result: An OD 6 HP Guard attacks through Gravity Shield.
Maybe, both shield and HP changes come into effect at the same time?
Maybe different status effects have different priority:

1. Accel|Overdrive
2. Shield Effect
3. Poison/Purify counter
It is looking like something is going on. (I wish we still had an "ask questions answered by the code" thread like Xenocidius had)

I know how I would have coded it: Categorize effects and then give them priority by category(example in Submarine's post).
1. On Attack abilities (acceleration)
2. On Attack shield (all Shield effects I remember including DR)
3. On Attack status effects (poison/purify)
4. On Damage abilities (vampire)
5. On Damage shield (some kind of scaling retribution shield?)
6. On Damage status effects
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