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Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188053#msg1188053
« on: April 28, 2015, 07:45:41 am »
NAME:
Dealer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Shuffle: Put target's hand back in deck, reshuffle their deck and draw same number of cards they had before
NAME:
Dealer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
TEXT:
Shuffle: Put target's hand back in deck, reshuffle their deck and draw same number of cards they had before

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Skill can be used only once.

Sanctuary prevents effect (if used on opponent)

I know I know, probably done before. I have found at least one similar, though I think this is more balanced.

Goal is to rework AD Storm Bolt's Gale Wind based on the comments there, as well as to try my hand at hand denial cards

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NAME:
Dealer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
7 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Shuffle: Put opponent's hand back in deck, reshuffle their deck and draw same number of cards they had before
NAME:
Dealer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
7 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
TEXT:
Shuffle: Put opponent's hand back in deck, reshuffle their deck and draw same number of cards they had before
Spoiler for Second version:
NAME:
Dealer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Shuffle: Put target's hand back in deck, reshuffle their deck and draw same number of cards they had before
NAME:
Dealer
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
TEXT:
Shuffle: Put target's hand back in deck, reshuffle their deck and draw same number of cards they had before
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 05:39:38 pm by Treldon »
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188060#msg1188060
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2015, 12:03:55 pm »
i guess that;s one more reason for me to use entropy  :P
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188061#msg1188061
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2015, 12:24:12 pm »
What's the use of the effect aside from a potential combo with Precognition? The cards that remain on the hand are usually 1) High-cost cards you can't play yet, 2) Control or 3) Useless/excess copies. If you don't know what you're shuffling on the enemy's side, you'd only shuffle those cards away, giving him a potential advantage instead.

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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188062#msg1188062
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2015, 12:33:47 pm »
What's the use of the effect aside from a potential combo with Precognition? The cards that remain on the hand are usually 1) High-cost cards you can't play yet, 2) Control or 3) Useless/excess copies. If you don't know what you're shuffling on the enemy's side, you'd only shuffle those cards away, giving him a potential advantage instead.

On the other hand, if the opponent is building some kind of combo, you can ruin it for them
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188068#msg1188068
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2015, 01:57:19 pm »
A card with this very same effect is in oetg, and it's not so powerful. It helps the owner of the card to counter a bad draw in a deck with many expensive cards though.

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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188084#msg1188084
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 05:06:35 pm »
Making it a targeted effect might be a good idea
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188324#msg1188324
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 09:42:29 pm »
Updated:
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  • Skill is now targetable (now you can redraw your own hand if you really want to)
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188325#msg1188325
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2015, 09:48:02 pm »
If sanctuary is up, can you not reshuffle your own hand?
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188328#msg1188328
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 09:52:01 pm »
If sanctuary is up, can you not reshuffle your own hand?

Yes, sanctuary protects against stuff happening in the opponent's turn.
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188329#msg1188329
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 09:57:24 pm »
If sanctuary is up, can you not reshuffle your own hand?

Fair question, the note was misleading. Fixed it.

If you have Dealer and use Shuffle on opponent, if they have Sanctuary, nothing happens.
If you have Dealer and use Shuffle on yourself, if you have Sanctuary the effect takes place, since the change is in your turn.
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188341#msg1188341
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2015, 12:29:15 am »
when you say you can the skill once do you mean per turn or something like lycanthropy (the skill is removed after the use). If it is the second case this is really overpriced.
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Re: Dealer | Dealer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58249.msg1188361#msg1188361
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2015, 07:39:49 am »
when you say you can the skill once do you mean per turn or something like lycanthropy (the skill is removed after the use). If it is the second case this is really overpriced.

Like Lycantrope. As for the cost, I was thinking of 2 for creature, 4 for spell, so a total of 6
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