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What should be done regarding the previous CDC awards?

All CDC awards should be removed. Future awards should be given according to current system.
All awards but 1st place should be removed. Future awards should be given according to current system.
All awards but 1st and 2nd place should be removed. Future awards should be given according to current system.
All awards should be replaced by the current CDC award. Future awards should be given according to current system.
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Re: CIA Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1220160#msg1220160
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 01:23:26 AM »
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Re: CIA Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1220252#msg1220252
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2016, 12:37:32 AM »
The Cia seems to add up quickly. Only after 8 months the armory got 4 pages and over 100 cards . We need to come up with a way to solve this problem cause if Zanz would come back it's better to have a top 30 than top 200 etc. I recommend you to add another level to the Cia and start adding cards there!

I also think you should take some of the archieved cards from the armory and give them a second chance to go to the next level.

The speed will be taken care of by reducing amount of LCC cards accepted at a time (when the CIA is back in business of course). And IIRC, Higu is against adding another level simply because of forum space.

As far as archived cards, they do have a chance. If you notice any of the cards in the system that have a Legacy tag on them, they are ones that have been resubmitted to the LCC.
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Re: CIA Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1220286#msg1220286
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2016, 05:36:43 PM »
The Cia seems to add up quickly. Only after 8 months the armory got 4 pages and over 100 cards . We need to come up with a way to solve this problem cause if Zanz would come back it's better to have a top 30 than top 200 etc. I recommend you to add another level to the Cia and start adding cards there!

I also think you should take some of the archieved cards from the armory and give them a second chance to go to the next level.

The speed will be taken care of by reducing amount of LCC cards accepted at a time (when the CIA is back in business of course).K that's good And IIRC, Higu is against adding another level simply because of forum space.Forum space? it would just be 1 more thing. And even if the speed is slowing down I think that the highest level shouldn't have more than 50 cards at a time. like 4 from each element.

As far as archived cards, they do have a chance. If you notice any of the cards in the system that have a Legacy tag on them, they are ones that have been resubmitted to the LCC.K Good!
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Re: CIA Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1220289#msg1220289
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2016, 05:52:18 PM »
If we're concerned about forum space, maybe posts in the CI&A board that have been around for more than X months without being moved upwards to Crucible (and contain the "|" symbol in the title) should be permanently deleted?
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Re: CIA Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1220300#msg1220300
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2016, 07:24:25 PM »
If we're concerned about forum space, maybe posts in the CI&A board that have been around for more than X months without being moved upwards to Crucible (and contain the "|" symbol in the title) should be permanently deleted?

Why?  I mean, posts and topics themselves don't take much room, and the images are all hosted elsewhere.
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Re: CIA Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1220303#msg1220303
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2016, 07:37:00 PM »
If we're concerned about forum space, maybe posts in the CI&A board that have been around for more than X months without being moved upwards to Crucible (and contain the "|" symbol in the title) should be permanently deleted?

To keep track of every thread that's been around for >X amount of time might be quite the challenge indeed.

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Re: CI&A Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1221012#msg1221012
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2016, 07:49:46 PM »
Advertising LCC more should be prioritized. There's currently 2 posts in there, and the last one was made November 16th, 2015.

EDIT: Also, where did the Quickdraw thread go? There were tons of ideas in there, ripe to be posted, and I can't seem to find it.
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Re: CI&A Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1221018#msg1221018
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2016, 10:09:58 PM »
Advertising LCC more should be prioritized. There's currently 2 posts in there, and the last one was made November 16th, 2015.

EDIT: Also, where did the Quickdraw thread go? There were tons of ideas in there, ripe to be posted, and I can't seem to find it.

At the moment, the CIA is at a pause due to the staffing issue (right now, of the five CCs, only two have extensive experience using the current system and they are currently inactive; another one is mainly a programmer for Cygnia; the other two are - as of right now - new to this system). IIRC though, I think UTA is making a program to automatically work the levels system, which should lower the workload by a lot. But yes, once it starts, promoting LCC would be nice. Then again, a current goal is to slow the stream of cards making it into the Armory, but that's beside the point.

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Re: CI&A Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1221020#msg1221020
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2016, 10:30:05 PM »
Advertising LCC more should be prioritized. There's currently 2 posts in there, and the last one was made November 16th, 2015.

EDIT: Also, where did the Quickdraw thread go? There were tons of ideas in there, ripe to be posted, and I can't seem to find it.

At the moment, the CIA is at a pause due to the staffing issue (right now, of the five CCs, only two have extensive experience using the current system and they are currently inactive; another one is mainly a programmer for Cygnia; the other two are - as of right now - new to this system). IIRC though, I think UTA is making a program to automatically work the levels system, which should lower the workload by a lot. But yes, once it starts, promoting LCC would be nice. Then again, a current goal is to slow the stream of cards making it into the Armory, but that's beside the point.

Quickdraw is currently in the Exhibition Hall.
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At the moment, the CIA is at a pause due to the staffing issue (right now, of the five CCs, only two have extensive experience using the current system and they are currently inactive;
Then, the likely option here is to remove the inactive CCs, hire new ones to replace them, and get it working ASAP, because ATM, it's just dead weight.

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another one is mainly a programmer for Cygnia; the other two are - as of right now - new to this system
They really aren't that new to have being new as an excuse to not have CIA have all cylinders firing.

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IIRC though, I think UTA is making a program to automatically work the levels system
Cool. UTAlan is awesome, we should praise him. This might remove the need for 5 CC's, as well.

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But yes, once it starts, promoting LCC would be nice
Advertising is nice. Should be done more often. I know that people, myself included, tend to be forgetful, and if you don't regularly post in CIA, LCC can be forgotten. I, as a Tournament Organizer is, know how vital it is to advertise tourneys in Chat. I think it's improved the numbers per tourney, as did the reward changes, but that's not about CIA.

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Then again, a current goal is to slow the stream of cards making it into the Armory
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Now that there's a fair amount of cards in Cygnia, is it possible that there could be some limitations towards submitting your own cards, or just cards as a whole to crucible? I know that it'd slow down the flow of cards coming in, but it'd increase the chance that people pick quality cards, rather than just throwing all the cards at the LFC thread that they can.
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Cool. Transparency is a cool thing too, nice to know where/when things get shifted around.

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Re: CI&A Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1221064#msg1221064
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2016, 02:47:22 AM »
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  • There is a definite need to remove inactive CCs, and Council is discussing this at the moment.
  • Kirby and I are currently still working on adapting to the system, which is not surprising when you know that breadcrumbs have not been left to pick up where old CCs left off. This is part of the issue we're currently facing. Aside from that, CCs try not to make decisions based on one person's opinion, and although a more balanced and egalitarian system, it tends to slow things down a bit too.
  • Advertising is an integral part of CI&A, definitely. Having said that, we will certainly focus on getting more involvement into CI&A, however we're currently trying to assess where we're at in terms of involvement, and where it is. Coding Difficulty, for example, is a way to get coders and non-coders alike take an interest in the coding side of CI&A.
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Re: CI&A - Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1229651#msg1229651
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2016, 08:27:02 AM »
Another option to consider is to remove all the awards and give new gold, silver, and bronze rewards to the top 3 across all of the challenges.

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Re: CI&A - Suggestions and Feedback http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60902.msg1230298#msg1230298
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2016, 01:45:26 AM »
I think this thread should be bumped as there seems to be a poll that has been put up with no notice (aside from that small mention in the CIA Announcements thread).

Anyways, I myself can't add much as of I didn't get any awards. But IMO, I'd say maybe halving the amount of CD awards given previously could work. Or, instead replace the previous awards with an overall award (like a red card shaped award that shows that this person has gotten awards before the CC transfer). It would still recognize the people who got awards, but would keep the rarity of the actual CD awards high. Although I suppose that may be unfair to the people who have a lot (like andretimpa IIRC). But meh.

EDIT: After looking more closely at the poll options, it gave me a slight variant of the idea above. Just remove all the previous awards given except for the gold awards. Then replace those with the representative awards.


EDIT #2: Okay wait no that's basically the second option um um forget I said that.
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