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Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162076#msg1162076
« on: October 25, 2014, 12:24:38 am »
NAME:
Burnout
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
X :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature attacks 4 times and is destroyed. X= cost of creature. X must be < 6. If X=1 draw 1 card.
NAME:
Burnout
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
X :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature attacks 4 times and is destroyed. X= cost of creature. X must be < 7. If X=1 draw 1 card.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
Every ATK point above the creatures base attack adds 1 to X.
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« Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 12:27:35 pm by montrossen »
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162082#msg1162082
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 01:07:57 am »
It can be used in OTKs for high efficiency.

There is a reason adrenaline is only effective on those with low attack.

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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162095#msg1162095
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 03:35:30 am »
Attacking four times at only half the cost of the creature is OP.
That is equivalent to summoning four creatures for 1/8 the price of all of them combined.

6 time quanta for 60 damage.
By any chance, is this connected to that card that costs 5 darkness quanta to deal 50 damage?
If so, I suggest nerfing both.
If not, I suggest nerfing both.

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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162112#msg1162112
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2014, 05:28:58 am »
Updated.
Now the creature will not have the opportunity to attack before the spell is used, so its only worth using if you think your creature is not going to last 4 turns. Also, remember that its the spell cost plus the base  cost of the creature.
Another potential combo with ruby dragon is quintessence and the dragon.That would probably last 4 turns and would cost slightly less.

And no, its not in relation to the darkness-damage card you mentioned.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2014, 05:33:28 am by montrossen »
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162188#msg1162188
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2014, 07:08:26 pm »
Theres a 3card combo that instantly deals 120 dmg unupped and 150 dmg upped. And its actually the most powerful on the first turn of your biggest creature; it would be a lot weaker if it required the creature to survive a few turns. It would be ok with me if it read one of the following:
- Target creature attacks as many times as it already attacked and then dies (potential CC)
- Creature gains +5 attack and dies after attacking (costs flat 4 :time)
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162190#msg1162190
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2014, 07:18:49 pm »
Updated.
Now the creature will not have the opportunity to attack before the spell is used, so its only worth using if you think your creature is not going to last 4 turns. Also, remember that its the spell cost plus the base  cost of the creature.
Another potential combo with ruby dragon is quintessence and the dragon.That would probably last 4 turns and would cost slightly less.

And no, its not in relation to the darkness-damage card you mentioned.
The 'nerf' fails to make this card unusable in OTKs.

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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162209#msg1162209
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 08:59:10 pm »
Any 12+att dragon + Momentum + Sky Blitz + this = 4-card OTK. Let's say it's OP
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162312#msg1162312
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 02:47:06 am »
Updated.
Now it can't be used on powerful creatures like dragons,plus spells and abilities can't get past it either.And finally, there is incentive to use very weak creatures (but not 0 cost ones-that would lead to much Ball-Lightning spams).
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162318#msg1162318
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 03:01:29 am »
would it attack during or at the end of turn?
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162321#msg1162321
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 03:35:59 am »
And now it's useless compared with Adrenaline

I suggest you just drop this idea
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Re: Burnout|Burnout https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56257.msg1162324#msg1162324
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 03:54:54 am »
And now it's useless compared with Adrenaline

I suggest you just drop this idea
It's still an instakill CC, though that creates problems of its own.

@ montrossen : What if you had the creature halve its attack before attacking, and instead of killing it have it's ATK = 0 afterwards, instead of all these awkward limits? I'd imagine that'd go over much more smoothly than what you have here.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2014, 03:57:45 am by Zblader »

 

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