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Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1162738#msg1162738
« on: October 28, 2014, 01:47:06 am »
NAME:
Black Forrest
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:darkness : Dark Evolution - Target creature gains +1|-1. If it is not nocturnal it gains an extra +1|-1 and becomes nocturnal.
NAME:
Dark Heart of the Forrest
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:darkness : Dark Evolution - Target creature gains +2|-2. If it is not nocturnal it gains an extra +1|-0 and becomes nocturnal.

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Nocturnal is a status that makes the creature also count as a darkness creature (i.e. benefits from nightfall and eclipse and takes damage from holy light instead of healing)

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NAME:
Black Forrest
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:darkness : Dark Evolution - Target :life creature gains +1|-1. If it is not nocturnal it gains an extra +1|-1 and becomes nocturnal.
NAME:
Dark Heart of the Forrest
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:darkness : Dark Evolution - Target :life creature gains +2|-2. If it is not nocturnal it gains an extra +1|-0 and becomes nocturnal.

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Nocturnal is a status that makes the creature also count as a darkness creature (i.e. benefits from nightfall and eclipse and takes damage from holy light instead of healing)

SERIES:

« Last Edit: October 30, 2014, 06:04:03 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1162739#msg1162739
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 01:49:41 am »
Why force :life creatures?

With such a high cost, it's most likely you'll be using this on life creatures anyway.

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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1162741#msg1162741
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 02:10:00 am »
Figured it needed some kind of limitation so people wouldn't yell about nightfall abuse...
If the cost seems prohibitive enough though, I have no problem whatsoever with removing the restriction.
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1162782#msg1162782
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 07:41:37 am »
Which :life creatures would you count as nocturnal?
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1162806#msg1162806
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2014, 10:21:32 am »
Seems pretty good, considering :life creatures often have the same amount of HP as they do ATK. Though, maybe consider having the upped do +2|-1
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1162876#msg1162876
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 07:17:10 pm »
Which :life creatures would you count as nocturnal?
This is something of a nod to openEtG, since it has Fungus which are nocturnal...
For regular EtG, it just means that the first usage on a creature will have a stronger impact than subsequent uses (because after the first use, the creature becomes nocturnal).
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1163044#msg1163044
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 07:56:44 pm »
Don't see what off element abuse this would have, assuming it doesn't apply +2|-2 to darkness creatures before they're marked "nocturnal" (ie in the case that darkness/death is already nocturnal)

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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1163052#msg1163052
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 08:36:55 pm »
I don't see much use for this.
Please elaborate somewhere.

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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1163071#msg1163071
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 11:18:15 pm »
Thematic buff card for :life is really the main purpose.

Life is about adaptation. This represents creatures adapting to a dark and dangerous environment by coming nocturnal and more vicious.

Mechanics wise, it gives a way to extend nightfall and eclipse buff to creatures of other elements. The counterbalancing HP loss is to prevent abuse with sparks or other 0 HP creatures.
The ATK bonus is pretty substantial, so it should be useful in its own right...

Where would I use its?... giant frogs, forest scorpions, cockatrice. After its rolling its like adding +1 :darkness to get +3 ATK (unupped) or +1 :darkenss for +5 ATK (upped). That seems worth it to me... or would you really say a 10|2 Giant Frog is not worth it?.
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1163073#msg1163073
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 11:39:41 pm »
This wouldn't be abusable with sparks

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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1163074#msg1163074
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2014, 11:42:54 pm »
Without the -1 HP, it might be, in the situation Odin described.

You play a Spark, make it nocturnal with this card - Spark is now 4 | 0

Play Eclipse - Spark is now 6| 1
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Re: Black Forrest | Dark Heart of the Forrest https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56330.msg1163076#msg1163076
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 11:58:36 pm »
or just play a blessing to make it 6|3.
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