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Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105467#msg1105467
« on: October 24, 2013, 04:44:38 am »
NAME:
Berenger
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
Gallop:
Deal 1 extra damage for every 4 creatures that attack before Berenger.
NAME:
Berenger
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 4
TEXT:
Gallop:
Deal 1 extra damage for every 4 creatures that attack before Berenger.

ART:
http://images.wikia.com/lotr/images/2/2f/Shadowfax2.jpg
IDEA:
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NOTES:
The idea being that whilst other creatures are attacking, this card is building up speed and therefore damage. Frozen, Delayed and 0 ATK creatures don't count obviously. I'm undecided as the whether adrenaline should count as multiple attacks or just one. I think multiple might be too OP in the right deck but then again it might seem broken without adrenaline abuse. This card wold have been life except for 2 things, adrenaline and mitosis. Plus it fits light pretty well.
This card was created for 2 purposes,
A) An unupped mid-hitter for life
B) A card that uses creature positioning

I apologize if this idea has been done before but I have not seen it.

Name and art can be changed.

Any questions and constructive criticism welcome.
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« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 05:36:38 pm by eljoemo »
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105476#msg1105476
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 06:35:44 am »
horsie :)
I do think that it has too high of a base cost. Archangel has better base stats, has heal, and is airborne. Why would I choose this card (Berenger) over AA?

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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105493#msg1105493
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 10:04:46 am »
I approve of the stats. Light doesn't have an unupped midhitter, so it's ok. Maybe modify the upgraded to deal 3 bonus damage?
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105540#msg1105540
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 05:10:57 pm »
Did i forget to mention that it stacks? Having 8 creatures before this would give +2 attack. 12 creatures before this would give +3 attack etc.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105542#msg1105542
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 05:21:39 pm »
That's +5 damage if the field is full and Berenger was summoned after the 20th card (or if it was an oracle pet). Not OP, but some may say that the upped is similar to Archangel's stats. That's not a problem at all IMO, just see shrieker and stone dragon.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105551#msg1105551
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 05:40:49 pm »
Damn archangel being so powerful.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105635#msg1105635
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 12:15:31 am »
I support this card, but what's with the horse art? Also, can you give me a bit of background into the name? Thematics are important IMO.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105636#msg1105636
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 12:18:16 am »
Name it Unicorn for example, since Pegasus is already occupied.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105641#msg1105641
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 01:00:09 am »
The Story of this card

I remember there being some kind of demand for cards based on position on the field. For creatures, this would most likely mean increasing attack. A card (I believe it was Satellite|Asteroid) had already done direct influence so I came up with a method of increasing attack indirectly, so to speak. Hence came the idea of a card that would gain attack for creatures attacking before it. I considered an aether or light machine that would charge a laser (IMMA FIRIN' etc.) attack but in the end chose galloping. The horse would have been life except for mitosis and adrenaline abuse.

As for the name, I didn't want to simply call it Horse or Unicorn because that would be a tad bland. A horse name such as Buttercup or Daisy just wouldn't fit. The only "older" horse name  could think of was Shadowfax. Obviously copyright was active here but I wanted something of this caliber. So I Googled "medieval horse names" and found a nice long list on Yahoo answers. And because I was getting tired I just chose the one that sounded best from A - E so Berenger was chosen. Not as eventful as you might hope but there you go.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105752#msg1105752
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 07:01:47 pm »
I've seen a very similar card to this one before, though I'll have to do some digging to find it.

I do remember that it was hard to balance correctly due to fracta-spark combos. The mechanic of basing damage on number of previous attackers tends to encourage the combo too much.

I think this one may have a slightly better shot since it only scales after every 4 previous attackers, but it will still be a practically forced combo with fractal.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105786#msg1105786
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 10:40:56 pm »
I've seen a very similar card to this one before, though I'll have to do some digging to find it.

I do remember that it was hard to balance correctly due to fracta-spark combos. The mechanic of basing damage on number of previous attackers tends to encourage the combo too much.

I think this one may have a slightly better shot since it only scales after every 4 previous attackers, but it will still be a practically forced combo with fractal.

I'd be interested to see what someone could do with it in a FFQ deck.
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Re: Berenger | Berenger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51977.msg1105880#msg1105880
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2013, 03:15:09 pm »
Anyone have any ideas on the adrenaline problem? Personally I think each individual attack should count as 1 but what do other people say?
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