Archdragon | Elite Archdragon

[foxrain4]

NAME: Archdragon ELEMENT: Earth COST: 11 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 8 | 10 TEXT: : Empower Set Archdragon's atk equals to its HP.	NAME: Elite Archdragon ELEMENT: Earth COST: 13 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 10 | 12 TEXT: : Empower Set Archdragon's atk equals to its HP.

ART: Jolo Maangas Roy https://www.facebook.com/darkjoboro?fref=nf IDEA: NOTES: Combo with Heavy Armour + 0/6, use Empower, Archdragon becomes 16/16 dragon. If you are more of a stalling player, use Basilisk Blood + 0/20, Archdragon cant attack for 6 turns, use Iridium Warden to delay opponent attacking creatures. After 6 turns, Archdragon becomes 30/30 dragon. (revised on 30/04/15) SERIES:

[Naesala]

One time (like Lycan) or multi use (like Golem)? The latter is OP

[ZephyrPhantom]

Ability wording and what you're saying aren't the same effect. It should be "Set Archdragon's attack equal to its HP." ("Increase" implies you are stacking it on top of the original effect.)

Is the ability one use or repeatable?

[Devourer]

As I believe you have been told before, a high cost for an OP creature does not make it less OP. Earth is the element with cheap and powerful health buffs, making this far too powerful, since its high health also ensures it can only be removed by RT or Antimatter. Earth already has Shriekers, Shard Golems, and other vanilla hard-hitters. It doesn't need any more.

[foxrain4]

Ability wording and what you're saying aren't the same effect. It should be "Set Archdragon's attack equal to its HP." ("Increase" implies you are stacking it on top of the original effect.)

Is the ability one use or repeatable?

What i meant was actually Archdragon's attack cant be decreased with Empower.
(I will use "set" the next time i update all my cards.)

the ability is repeatable.

[ZephyrPhantom]

As I believe you have been told before, a high cost for an OP creature does not make it less OP. Earth is the element with cheap and powerful health buffs, making this far too powerful, since its high health also ensures it can only be removed by RT or Antimatter. Earth already has Shriekers, Shard Golems, and other vanilla hard-hitters. It doesn't need any more.

It's worth noting that Antimatter doesn't counter this card either, since you can just use Empower to reset the card's attack. I'd suggest Empower be made single use, at the very least.

[Higurashi]

If this was a smaller creature, it could have a repeatable ability. It'd be akin to a grower, which could easily fit in Earth thematically speaking (packing on layers) and gives another offensive alternative that wouldn't hurt. Earth isn't dominating the game as it is, so I wouldn't mind it getting some more stuff to play with.

Minding the balance of such a suggestion though: you pretty much have to spend cards to make it grow, so it can't be too small to start with. It'd be a lot weaker than a Forest Spirit, mono or duo be damned. The fact that it's hard to counter once it gets going helps and fits with Earth's theme of resilience. Perhaps a 2|5 for 5-6 or so. For 6-7 you'd get a 5|5 with potential for large growth. Keep in mind you could use Heavy Armor and its ability on the same turn, so it can't have too much HP to start out with. 5 is good because of Lightning since it has to wait at least one turn before being able to use its ability, unless you wanna waste card slots on SoR (you don't).

The only way to repeatedly trigger the ability without spending a card every time would be to buff a Warden, AM it and have it guard this creature. A negative attack Warden increases the max and current HP of the creature it targets with guard. The positive is that you can do this in a duo and pack Purple Nymphs so you don't have to spend card slots on AM's just for the combo. In fact, that's a pretty awesome way to make this underused, useless combo useful.

[AD TienzuStorm]

I'd suggest that it be a small creature (like 3|6) and make Empower repeatable like this:

Spoiler for Hidden:

[foxrain4]

I'd suggest that it be a small creature (like 3|6) and make Empower repeatable like this:

Spoiler for Hidden:

My original intention is to make a series of 15 quanta dragon cards,
but good dragon art are rare, so i cant really make a series now.

[serprex]

Some serious reality distortion fields in this thread

[ZephyrPhantom]

Some serious reality distortion fields in this thread

That tends to happen when card notes aren't clear.

[AD TienzuStorm]

My original intention is to make a series of 15 quanta dragon cards,
but good dragon art are rare, so i cant really make a series now.

Okay, please compare this card with Miracle. Does it have nearly the same effect? No. Well, is it's damage/cost ratio good? No. Does it have an ability to justify that? Yes, but this is OP in that the second turn this is out, you could have gotten a +8|+6 for 2 , even more for 3 and 4 . The ludicrous cost makes this thing overpriced and underpriced at the same time.

Making 15 quanta cost cards have to be super uber good cards that are game changers (and even 10 quanta is at Fractal, another very powerful card to go with Miracle, while at 9 there's Sky Blitz). These dragons so far don't fit that description.

And also, adding an additional 3 HP does not warrant a +2 cost, cost should really only be raised if the gain from upgrading is too much for just a normal switch (like Otyugh to Elite Oyugh). Think about it this way: When you upgrade, think that there is this line that is a bit above the normal card.

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Normal card here

When you make it better (ie. lowering playing cost, lowering ability cost, improving ability, adding stat boosts), it adds up from the card to the line.

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Goes up to the yellow line
Normal card here

A normal upgrade would either be below or at the line, so you wouldn't have to balance it out with any cost raises, stat decreases, etc. If the upgrade is so powerful that it goes above the line, something needs to compensate so that it goes back down to be equal to or below the line.

Well, that explanation probably didn't make any sense at all, but if it did, then you're welcome.