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Title: Appease | Weaken
Post by: Naii_the_Baf on March 20, 2017, 05:47:54 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/ds5Mbud.png)	(http://i.imgur.com/3DeQsMi.png)
NAME: Appease ELEMENT: Light COST: 2 :light TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deals 3 attack damage to target creature.	NAME: Weaken ELEMENT: Light COST: 1 :light TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deals 3 attack damage to target creature.

ART: jacker, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-art/hybrid-marks-(complete)/ Light/Dark card back IDEA: fabian771 NOTES: In-game, there are no cards that can reduce a creature's attack directly(except :entropy Antimatter), so I decided I would make one. :light seemed the best element for the job, so I put it there. 'Attack damage' is damage done to the creature's attack instead of the regular damage to its HP. SERIES:

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: iancudorinmarian on March 20, 2017, 05:56:34 pm

Just say "Reduce target creature's attack by 3". It's pretty confusing otherwise. It's still pretty weak compared to the rest of the CC in the game, but...I guess it's insane compared to light's other CC (read: none).

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 20, 2017, 06:36:04 pm

Quote from: iancudorinmarian on March 20, 2017, 05:56:34 pm

Just say "Reduce target creature's attack by 3". It's pretty confusing otherwise. It's still pretty weak compared to the rest of the CC in the game, but...I guess it's insane compared to light's other CC (read: none).

Unless you're fighting :death or :darkness and just happen to have holy light on hand ;)
... but ya, thats pretty useless (although in the 1.4 beta where you can have some control over your opponent it might see use...) ... :light is not known for CC.

This could be interesting in conjunction with AM, assuming it will be able to further reduce the ATK after it is already negative.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: CactusKing on March 22, 2017, 06:01:38 am

This could also save you from :entropy maxwell's demon in a desperate situation.
I have a question:
If a  :water steam machine has 4 attack (from using  :fire :fire steam ability) and you play this spell to cut its atk to 1, does it continue to lose stats until it reaches -3 or will it stop at 0?

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: Naii_the_Baf on March 22, 2017, 10:36:28 pm

:water Steam Machine's mechanics would only make it lower down to 0. Don't know how it works with :entropy Antimatter, though.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 22, 2017, 10:50:49 pm

I think allowing it to drop ATK negative would help make it more broadly useful, which would be good since it seems a little UP at the moment.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: CactusKing on March 23, 2017, 07:32:28 am

It seems UP, but there's probably some hidden synergy that we're all missing...

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: dragtom on March 23, 2017, 11:43:52 am

you can add adrenaline, but the sweet spots of (negative) 3 and 8 aren't really in reach for most creatures.

I think the idea would be better in a stronger and more expensive version.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 23, 2017, 03:21:17 pm

Would you be opposed to making it more expensive and then have it give the initial -3 ATK then an additional -1 ATK every turn (with the ability to drop ATK below zero as well).
The per turn reduction part could be accomplished by placing a (possibly stackable) debuff on the target.
I think that would be worthwhile since it would essentially give :light a slow ramping heal.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: Naii_the_Baf on March 24, 2017, 03:41:12 am

Say, as in a reverse :gravity Acceleration? Could be. Well, eliminating the HP thing, that is.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: Naii_the_Baf on March 24, 2017, 03:42:45 am

Also, the card can lower ATK below 0, when I said it wouldn't I was talking about :water Steam Machine's mechanics.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: 1011686 on March 25, 2017, 09:25:03 am

Wasn't there a card in oetg or cygnia, that reduced a creature's attack to 0? It was called pacifism, and was in the  :light element.

Title: Re: Appease | Weaken
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 25, 2017, 02:27:58 pm

Yes. It was quite useful.