(element) Extract | (element) Flask

[Eddygp]

I have thought about starting a series of permanents (at the moment, but open to changes like spell) which would act as a last resource temporary pillar. As it is quite difficult to explain here, I've designed the card for entropy without any art just to see how it would work like.

NAME: Entropy Extract ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 1 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Gain 2 when this card is played. 0 : Draw a copy of this card	NAME: Entropy Flask ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Gain 2 when this card is played. 0 : Draw a copy of this card

ART: IDEA: Eddygp NOTES: This will be part, if it follows, of the Extracts Series. So the pros and the cons are the following. Pros: Once you deploy the first card, it is easy to get going drawing Extract or Flask copies to your hand and playing them. It works as a rainbow aid for some decks that need some major attention to a particular element. Cons: Very slow to depend uniquely on this for a lot of quanta. Medium time inversion of quanta, not useful for OTK decks. THE CARD DISAPPEARS AFTER X TURNS (see poll) SERIES: Extracts

So comment, feedback, vote and most importantly give ideas!
Thanks!

Eddygp

[Fippe94]

But, the unupped is completely useless? It costs 2 to play, and you get 1 by playing it.

[Eddygp]

But, the unupped is completely useless? It costs 2 to play, and you get 1 by playing it.

My bad! It was supposed to be the other way round hahaha!
OK, so now it is repaired, I wanted to say that every other Extract or Flask will be exactly the same as this one, only changing  by whatever other element it is.

[Fippe94]

Seems still pretty useless. Sure, you gain 1 quanta by playing it, but I could have played nova instead for the same effect. As for the ability, since it costs 1, and it costs another 1 to play the drawn card, you don't get anything by using it.

EDIT: I am a fan of the idea though, it just must be made more effective to get any use.

[Eddygp]

Seems still pretty useless. Sure, you gain 1 quanta by playing it, but I could have played nova instead for the same effect. As for the ability, since it costs 1, and it costs another 1 to play the drawn card, you don't get anything by using it.

EDIT: I am a fan of the idea though, it just must be made more effective to get any use.

OK... it could give you 3  instead of 2  when you play it. However, the price of 1 to draw a copy is more than essential because otherwise it would be OP or useless. What do you think?
EDIT: By the way, you can't pay several times (the to draw a copy) in one nova to get more novas. Therefore this is original and efficient as a multiplication half-pillar.

[Fippe94]

No but using the ability is useless anyway, since you won't gain any quanta. BNot sure how to make it usable though. I guess increasing the gain to 3 would be pretty good.

[Drake_XIV]

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOUR CARD IDEA!

[Eddygp]

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOUR CARD IDEA!

Yes, sorry. I didn't know how to do it bearing in mind that the Entropy one was just an example.

[Drake_XIV]

Please put the pro/con stuff inside the NOTE section as well.

[Eddygp]

Please put the pro/con stuff inside the NOTE section as well.

Did it.
Just to recap:

OK... it could give you 3  instead of 2  when you play it. However, the price of 1 to draw a copy is more than essential because otherwise it would be OP or useless. What do you think?

[Marsu]

Or it might just be better suited for Pre-Smithy : o

On topic: Unupped, this card would become a very, very interesting one if you either reduced the casting cost or (!) the ability cost to 0.
Let's say you chose the latter:

Turn 1: +1 Quantum
2: +1
3: +2
4: +4
5: +8
[...]
Turn 10: +256 Quantum

I'd say that would be a balanced card. Often UP as it needs too much time to have a good effect, but with a huge potential especially for stalls and a specifically great synergy with Diss Shield.

Well, just a random idea. Either way a card with potential, if you can keep up the quality, please create a series out of this.

[Fippe94]

Maybe I misunderstoos, but I got the impression that drawing a copy simply would draw another copy that you actually have in the deck, not create a new copy of it. That would mean there are no way to get that much quanta from it. But now when Marsu mentions it, I guess that creating a copy might be a better idea, so which is it that you intended?