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Inferno Tempest | Inferno Tempest [Doomsday Device™] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66264.msg1278924#msg1278924
« on: August 11, 2018, 06:54:24 pm »
NAME:
Inferno Tempest
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
Discard your opponent's deck if they deal 15 or more damage to you at once. They cannot deck out. Immaterial.
NAME:
Inferno Tempest
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
Discard your opponent's deck if they deal 20 or more damage to you at once. Immaterial.

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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Inferno_Tempest
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NOTES:
Inferno Tempest (IT) activates when the individual damage counter shows a number equal to or bigger than 15|20. This includes poison damage.

The damage must be individual, so two dragons with 10+10 attack do not activate IT.

IT can only discard the opponent's remaining cards in his deck. The opponent's hand, field, and quanta are unaffected.

By the current mechanics of Elements, Sanctuary does not block the effect of IT, because the damage (and the discard) happens during the opponent's own turn.

The damage must be done by the opponent, so using SoSac does not activate IT.

Decking out means losing by not being able to draw new cards. If the unupgraded IT activates, not even extra drawpower can deck out the opponent.

After IT activated, cards that are reversed into the opponent's deck are unaffected, unless the opponent deals more than 15|20 damage again.
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Re: Inferno Tempest | Inferno Tempest [Doomsday Device™] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66264.msg1278938#msg1278938
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2018, 12:39:27 am »
Sooo the upgraded is strictly worse, it basically never triggers unless you're basically dead and when it does it essentially stops them from drawing cards, whilst making stalling a useless tactic for you and disabling SoB for you. Anything I'm missing?

Edit: ok there is, the upped one doesnt disable deckout. still it counters exactly ug... after it killed you and you lose anyway. only way to voluntarily trigger it is to hope they run a ruby dragon, put 2 decent buffs on it and hope you are not dead yet.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 12:42:49 am by kaempfer13 »
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Re: Inferno Tempest | Inferno Tempest [Doomsday Device™] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66264.msg1278946#msg1278946
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 02:32:36 am »
"at once" i think it is supposed to be in a single turn, at that point it will be OP, otherwise is UP

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Re: Inferno Tempest | Inferno Tempest [Doomsday Device™] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66264.msg1278950#msg1278950
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 04:50:01 am »
I was playing around with the following deck, except replace Fire Shields with Inferno Tempests:

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This card must be built around, and not just blindly put in decks. Your win condition is to erase your opponent's deck and then take care of what's on the field. After that, your opponent will be wide open (without a way to recover).

The point is to keep one opposing creature alive and buff it up. After IT activates, Antimatter or Reverse Time handles the stray creature in one shot. This deck managed to get the job done against AIs, but I forgot to add damage to actually finish them off. :V

Firestall also appreciates an immaterial asset that prevents the opponent from going over a certain damage boundary. Stalling is not useless if you only leave one opposing creature alive (which you can instantly kill with a beefy Firebolt).



Seeing the negative feedbacks, I should have picked Paradox Reshuffler instead. :P
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Re: Inferno Tempest | Inferno Tempest [Doomsday Device™] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66264.msg1278951#msg1278951
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 05:37:43 am »
do keep in mind that even if you spend all those buffs they can kill their creature before it hits you (not to mention you are dead to all otks and creatureless decks). Also you have yet to convince me of the unupped version [as pure stall just wont finish your opponent with it (tbf the best stall firestall just straightup kills their opponent most of the time)], but still what you get for all your troubles id regard as roughly equal to an immaterial sored eternity with 0 atkdmg. You kinda need antimatter and thus consequentially chaos power to not hurt yourself too much by making the opponents creature huge, so the unupped version in unupped meta seems pretty weak (youll have to use blessings and otherwise a firestall I suppose). Even if that works, i feel like those would be the only decks that can actually use this card.
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