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Gir

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg372#msg372
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:28 pm »

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The artifacts are of course not invulnerable or anything like that.
Are you absolutely sure? Lots of the weapons are unable to be destroyed or stolen. There is also Enchant Artifact card in earth.

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The problem is that the Firefly Queen can apparently produce multiple Fireflies during one turn.
I have yet to see this. Are you sure the extra Firefly isn't it's own card being played?

Gunfingers

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg373#msg373
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:28 pm »

I encountered the targetting of permanents issue about 20 minutes ago. I'd seen it a couple times, but it just cost me a game so i'm a little upset about it.

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oki

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg374#msg374
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:28 pm »

1. Deflagration cannot target artifacts in the weapon/shield slots in about 20% of all games. It's quite random but once it occurs the artifact cannot be targeted for the rest of the game. The target icon just doesn't appear. The artifacts are of course not invulnerable or anything like that.

2. Deflagration only removes a single charge(!) from Bone Wall. If that's not a bug it's completely imbalanced and should be increased to 5 charges.

3. A quite popular tactic among Mark of Air players is to use Firefly Queen, Fireflay and Rustler to mass produce Fireflies. The problem is that the Firefly Queen can apparently produce multiple Fireflies during one turn. That's probably an exploit or a bug as the text doesn't mention that the Firefly Queen can use the ability multiple times during one turn. Unless there is another card involved which I didn't notice.

That's all I noticed so far. Great game otherwise :)


angelatheist

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg520#msg520
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

the weapon becoming untargetable sometimes happens against the computer so thats probably just a bug.  Producing more fireflies than possible is probably an exploit. 

Chival

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg521#msg521
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

i think the FFQ ability is adding up so when they decide to use it they can use it how ever many times it could have been used but wasnt in past turns.

I have also seen this happen and i think this is why.

Evil Hamster

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

2. Deflagration only removes a single charge(!) from Bone Wall. If that's not a bug it's completely imbalanced and should be increased to 5 charges.

That's actually the way it is intended to work. Bone wall is supposed to be largely immune to deflagerate/steal.

oki

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

I've lost yet another game due to the first bug. I'll stop playing until it's fixed otherwise it's just too frustrating.
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i think the FFQ ability is adding up so when they decide to use it they can use it how ever many times it could have been used but wasnt in past turns.
That may be the explanation. If it's not a bug I'd suggest to lower health of the Firefly Queen from 7 to 6 to make it easier to kill her then while she is stocking up charges.

oki

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

Would suggest to increase it to 5 charges, or maybe 3 as a compromise, and also display a warning so that a card is not wasted.

oki

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg525#msg525
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

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The artifacts are of course not invulnerable or anything like that.
Are you absolutely sure?
Yes.

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The problem is that the Firefly Queen can apparently produce multiple Fireflies during one turn.
I have yet to see this. Are you sure the extra Firefly isn't it's own card being played?
I will investigate this further. Two Firefly Queens produce about 10 Fireflies in only two turns.

Spiro Agnew

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg526#msg526
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

For #2, steal only takes one charge from bone shield as well.


swuster

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

I run a FFQ deck and I've never been able to do more than one firefly per queen per turn.  Could be that they have a lot of fireflies in the deck and are just playing them all at once?

I have run into the targeting bug a few times.

Two others that I've seen are an auto-win bug, where my opponent's timer runs down and suddenly I win.  At the start of the next match, where it shows you the health and quanta of the previous opponent, they all read NaN - Not a Number.

I've had exactly one battle where it seemed like everything was bugged to the max.  My opponent's permanents were untargetable.  His Empathic Bonds were healing him almost 20 per monster (he had two, so it was 40/turn).  And he was getting healed to full without playing Miracles - I know he wasn't because he had no Light quanta.  Weird battle....

oaky180

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Bugs/Imbalance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg752#msg752
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

Well now that bone wall costs 7 quantums I think it is fair. Most death decks run on very few pillars because they keep the deck at 30 cards and most death cards dont cost a whole lot. So it's fair that it only destroys one bonewall.

 

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