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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg304035#msg304035
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2011, 06:56:11 pm »
Wait. Maybe instead of buffing Vulture, we buff scavenger? Make it give 1|2 or summing.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg304103#msg304103
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2011, 07:55:02 pm »
nah i think scavenger skill is fine. nice idea though. i think the easiest way to go is a cost reduction.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg304145#msg304145
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2011, 08:17:43 pm »
I vote for the -1 cost, helps a lot and yet not too much where its OP

Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg304240#msg304240
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2011, 10:02:37 pm »
Voted for -1 cost since you're looking at a duo (such as Entropy) or relying on the opponent to buff you... but I don't think it needs more than that.  Condor Cat can be pretty scary when you get enough of them out.  And don't forget, this creature stacks with Bone Wall, Boneyard, etc. as passive creature protection.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg308263#msg308263
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2011, 04:40:58 pm »
This is the equivalence of dragons in my trusty Darkness/Death deck. Actually, it's already better than dragons. Remember that with a few Boneyards out, you can kill over, and over, and over, and over again (kill something (an enemy or your own virus) ---> three skeleton for you ---> kill your own skeletons ---> a couple of 4/5 vultures in a single turn). And that's, like the previous post stated, not looking at the fact that I have a massive Bone Wall up, several more in my hands along with a steal or two, and a field of Parasites and skeletons that are more punishing for the opponent to kill than to let live (well.. un-live / live... whatever.)

I did vote for +1 HP to start off, though... but that's just personal greed =9 I could always just pack a Nightfall instead.

Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg308267#msg308267
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2011, 04:44:53 pm »
Um, this is an  :o card in a  :fire/ :death deck, for the massive smiting power of  :fire. You might not even need a buff on it.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg308286#msg308286
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2011, 05:23:00 pm »
@Cometbah:
I'm a little confused as to how your  :death / :darkness deck is supposed to work. From the way you're describing it, you kill something to gain skeletons but then since there is no repeatable cc for  :death or :darkness you have to use up a card in order to kill your own 1/1 (2/2 if nightfall is in play) creature and give another creature +1/+1. With enough  vultures this might become workable but by the time you get 3 or 4 vultures in play the game has likely ended already.

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If you try the same or a similar deck with soulcatcher + dragons I find it usually works better. Again though, I'm not saying this card is totally useless, unlike some (*cough* BUFF FATE EGG *cough*), but vulture decks are almost always outperformed by other cards.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg308344#msg308344
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2011, 07:14:47 pm »
Voting for 1|2 unupped and 2|4 upped.
This. Both birds still in size range for Oty & Butterfly, but not getting Maxwell'd even with Eclipse on board.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg308407#msg308407
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2011, 08:27:21 pm »
but then since there is no repeatable cc for  :death or :darkness
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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg311041#msg311041
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2011, 02:13:15 pm »
but then since there is no repeatable cc for  :death or :darkness
Parasite
D'oh!

Not sure how I forgot that since parasite is one of my favorite cards . . .

Still sounds a little slow to me (requires at least 3 cards in play from 2 elements) but definitely more workable.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg312088#msg312088
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2011, 02:16:41 am »
Wait. Maybe instead of buffing Vulture, we buff scavenger?
I was thinking give Scavenger +2/+2 but after reading a few post I guess that would be OP.

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Re: Vulture | Condor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23322.msg335319#msg335319
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 08:03:43 am »
The condor is good,it is the base of "The condor" FG killer,and in combination with some killing spell it can have a good att.
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