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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg438584#msg438584
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2011, 09:51:51 am »
How about just changing it back to +1|+1? Yes, I know about Ball Lightning + Fractal, but with the turn delay any mass CC does it in.
Going back with what he said. Agreed. There are enough mass CC cards to counter Ball Lightning + Fractal, just like with fractaled Rols.
Yes but, if zanz removed that part, was for a clear intent to avoid a BL spam.

I agree instead on "until you play a card".

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg440346#msg440346
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2011, 02:36:24 pm »
This new idea is actually wonderful. My questions are

A.) does discarding cancel the effect as well?

B.) What about the buff to flooding?

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg440347#msg440347
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2011, 02:39:53 pm »
This new idea is actually wonderful. My questions are

A.) does discarding cancel the effect as well?

B.) What about the buff to flooding?
Smart questions.

If someone can write the exact text of "last until play a card" I'll insert it to the poll.

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg440491#msg440491
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2011, 10:35:27 pm »
"Until you next play a card not named "Shard of Patience," all your creatures gain +1/+0, +2/+2 if water type."

This would allow for multiple patiences to be played, as I honestly can't see it being useful if they don't stack.

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg441967#msg441967
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2011, 01:09:39 am »
yeah i've seen maybe one player use this...and it had no effect what so ever on his chances considering I was doing so much damage the delay kept it fom going into effect before he died....I say try removing the delay.....see what happens....I'd like to test this out with a field full of devourers....see what it does...

EDIT: just thought about removing the delay wouldn't exactly make it a shard of PATIENCE anymore would it? lol

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg441972#msg441972
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2011, 01:16:39 am »
During the last few days I found a never used synergy for SoP. Have you ever used them on scorpions ? Maybe in combination with squids. Unfortunately I have not enough SoPs for a deck, but scorpions (Dune/Deathstalker, maybe forest) could be a nice deck idea with this card. Also think about the warden...

I remark this because it could let us reconsider our opinion about this card.
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg441997#msg441997
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2011, 02:24:33 am »
During the last few days I found a never used synergy for SoP. Have you ever used them on scorpions ? [...]
Shards are 'Other' cards, and they have a reason to be such. All of these cards are somewhat universal, and could take a spot in almost any kind of deck, but many of them are considerably stronger when used with certain elements. Like all the other shards with their respective element, SoP also has an increased efficiency (at least in theory..) when played along with Water creatures, but its main purpose would be the attack increase, yes.

Sadly, you're still better off using Momentum/Blessing/Chaos Power for instatly applying their poison, as the 1 turn delay lets your opponent get rid of/ignore them easily (provided there's some CC or shields at hand). Also, unlike other buff cards, SoP does not provide additional HP for anything non-Water - rendering them totally helpless against such countermeasures.
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg442177#msg442177
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2011, 05:26:41 pm »
This card althought good seems underpowered , we don t have rush decks with many small creatures that comes in game quickly. I feel the card have a small effect in a party. Only tested it quickly however. Removing delay is for me a nice addition, I don t understand why this limitation ... ( although u can use your creatures ability before playing the card ) since it s suppose to boost the speed and power of the water elements creature.

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg444800#msg444800
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2012, 02:56:06 pm »
i think  remove delay and increse cost
SoP is useless it is difficult to have both 6more creature and flood and with SoP and wait for next turn
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg444906#msg444906
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2012, 09:12:36 pm »
Maybe make it so you can manually destroy it. Then for each turn it is alive you don't attack, but the creatures gain stats?

That would make the shard (for OTK etc) a very strategic thing I believe?

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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg446169#msg446169
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2012, 06:58:33 am »
Maybe make it so you can manually destroy it. Then for each turn it is alive you don't attack, but the creatures gain stats?

That would make the shard (for OTK etc) a very strategic thing I believe?
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Re: Shard of Patience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34506.msg446177#msg446177
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2012, 08:07:53 am »
Maybe make it so you can manually destroy it. Then for each turn it is alive you don't attack, but the creatures gain stats?

That would make the shard (for OTK etc) a very strategic thing I believe?
The problem with the Shard is exactly the delay. You can't add more delay and hope to make it better.

IMO this card needs for the delay to disappear (following subsequent balancing of course.
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