[Official] Momentum | Unstoppable

[Gunthar]

I do request a change to the upped version of Momentum. While the unupped version is well for me the upped version seems a bit UP. A +1/+1 and Shield ignore for 1  seems good. But the main question is why should I upgrade the Momentum? I do get only a cost reduction of 1 . And if a deck does not use Momentum, why should it use Unstoppable? For 1  I could get up to to +5/+5 (but no Shield ignore) but a +2/+x will handle many shields also.
Most gravity decks prefer to use Acceleration/Overdrive than Momentum/Unstoppable

Therefore I was looking for a bit different and more interesting Unstoppable: 2  (same as unupped) for a +2/+2 and Shield ignore making this card a bit more interesting to use. It allows a better synergy with the Gravitons (Salvager and Guards)

[dawn to dusk]

why do you upgrade heal? or SoP? or GP? or BB? or... you get the picture

the point is, -1 cost is useful in a lot of cases, especially so in momentum. it becomes twice as easy to splash

[dragtom]

see it this way: it is a 50% cost reduction.

a cost reduction from 2 to 1 is huge.
it allows one to play quite a few from nova,
it makes it way easier to splash in using the mark...

[Gunthar]

But then you could also rely on Chaos Power using also only 1 quanta. Assume having a deck with Novas and want to use a buff card I would surely prefer Chaos Power over Unstoppable.

2 to 1 quanta is a lesser gain than a card going down from 5 to 4 quanta. (That was the cause also that I did added Graviton Guards to my deck coz 2 for a 4/7 card is much better than 3  for a 3/5 card (Graviton Mercs))

I had first thought about to make the Unstoppable a +1/+2  with Shield ignore for 1 but that seems to strong. An upgrade is too expensive for just save 1  in this case.
Even a plate armor appears to be more useful (+0/+6) for 1 when upped.

[Treldon]

Yes, you do get more attack and health to your creature with Chaos Power for the same price - but one would rarely use Unstoppable for that reason (except for certain OTK decks).

You use it for one very specific reason: shield bypass. It does not matter how big and strong your creature is if it cannot hit due to a shield (dim, grav, proc)

Also, the other main difference between the two cards is that with Unstoppable, you know peerfectly what you will get from it in advance. With Chaos Power (or Seed), you have no idea, and therefore cannot be sure if your plan will work or not.

Hence, a 50% cost reduction is enough. Sure, it could use more buff, but it is not necessary

[omegareaper7]

Yes, you do get more attack and health to your creature with Chaos Power for the same price - but one would rarely use Unstoppable for that reason (except for certain OTK decks).

This^ Momentums job isn't for huge buffs in attack, its to by pass shields. Chaos power doesn't help against wings, fog, dusk, dime, dis or anything else for that matter, it is a pure buff. Again, that is not momentums job.

[Espithel]

Consider this:

Chaos Power and Overdrive compete with each other - they do the same thing, so you have to ask yourself to use one or the other.

Chaos Power and Overdrive do not compete with Momentum - they don't do the same thing.

Chaos Power and Overdrive are complemented by Momentum - You're getting a buff from CP/Overdrive and the ability to make that buff unblockable.


The real comparison, at least imo, is SoFo vs Momentum. And even then, momentum wins for being much more splashable and not overkill. And dune scorps.

[Gunthar]

I do not mind the role of Momentum which is fine. I just find that the upped version (Unstoppable) should get some small improvement in +ATK/+HP instead of a cost reduction. If it is just for bypassing shields the unupped version will do the job as well.

[Treldon]

Considering how often you face quanta denial techniques in Gold-Plat and PvP, the cost decrease is a big bonus. When you are struggling to get the quanta for your combo, it is a relief that you only need one instead of 2

[Espithel]

Considering how often you face quanta denial techniques in Gold-Plat and PvP, the cost decrease is a big bonus. When you are struggling to get the quanta for your combo, it is a relief that you only need one instead of 2

A cost of 1 off of mark alone is almost impossible to play against 2 devouers, fyi.

[omegareaper7]

I do not mind the role of Momentum which is fine. I just find that the upped version (Unstoppable) should get some small improvement in +ATK/+HP instead of a cost reduction. If it is just for bypassing shields the unupped version will do the job as well.

Except that 1 cost decrease means a lot of things for it. Such as being powered off of novas, not competing nearly as much for gravity in the deck, and being harder to quanta deny. And with the heavy emphasis in denial and speed the game has, that one is a big difference.