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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1225817#msg1225817
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2016, 11:26:32 pm »
Copied across from the updated Rules:

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Scoring -> 2. Team Vote
The team vote will occur much the same as the community votes, using the same table but posting within their secret sections. At least one vote per task must not be made on a fellow teammate (So, you can have a single vote for another team, or two votes, one for your team and one for another team). Each team has 6 Voting Power per role, and the team votes determine where this voting power is allocated eg 3 votes to one team, 2 to another, 1 to a third. These are added to the Community Votes.

This may not be the method that Nae was intending to use. However, with her absence, this is my method.

Hopefully this and a combination of the information in this thread makes things clearer.

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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228128#msg1228128
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2016, 06:32:42 am »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228129#msg1228129
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2016, 06:36:54 am »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228144#msg1228144
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2016, 08:13:12 am »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228200#msg1228200
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2016, 06:23:18 pm »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
+1 for this
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228201#msg1228201
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2016, 06:25:48 pm »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
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It'd mean 2 girls 1 brawl'd have enough time to finish their tasks properly.

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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228266#msg1228266
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2016, 11:11:33 pm »
I'm a little late to the party on this, but have we considered simply having a few non-participant judges decide everything?
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228340#msg1228340
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2016, 12:40:07 pm »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
+1 for this
Also agreed.
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It'd mean 2 girls 1 brawl'd have enough time to finish their tasks properly.
I'm totally in favor of this too.
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228395#msg1228395
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2016, 08:27:47 pm »
Would it be possible to extend at least for 2-3 days the time for round 5 due to Easter?
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It'd mean 2 girls 1 brawl'd have enough time to finish their tasks properly.
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228466#msg1228466
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2016, 07:28:12 am »
We're discussing the easter extension. 3 days would be enough, right?

I'm a little late to the party on this, but have we considered simply having a few non-participant judges decide everything?

The trouble is, how many people can you find to be active and have enough expertise to judge a topic? Even if you did, there's the concern of styles. I like reading stories which are fleshed out and somewhat deep, but as a judge that'd be a detriment to the writers who like to have short and humorous pieces. And there are tasks which the judges might be clueless with, which limits what you can have in Brawl.

Having a mass vote can be hard and it disadvantages less active teams a bit (or a lot in earlier brawls), but it's the most fair system imo. Although I would like to implement some form of alternative voting, where you can vote for whom you like while still ensuring your team isn't disadvantaged (STV-esque, perhaps?).
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228468#msg1228468
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2016, 08:02:51 am »
Yeah, 3 days should be enough, thanks for the extension!
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Re: Forum Brawl #5 - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60824.msg1228481#msg1228481
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 11:50:43 am »
I'm a little late to the party on this, but have we considered simply having a few non-participant judges decide everything?

One of the earliest Brawls had this system in addition to the popular vote. The Expert vote included the Brawlmasters and a couple judges. Over the course of the brawl the judges and some other non-participants discusses the merits and flaws of the "Expert vote". Being able to take advantage of Vrt's expertise on art was valuable (expert in their field) but even Vrt admitted they were not an expert in all the other roles. Experts not on the expert panel voted in the popular vote, there they were permitted to avoid voting on a task if they did not feel qualified to judge. (Ex: I would frequently give a through review/vote on card design but avoid voting on art where I am a bad judge) As a result of the discussion, each expert on the panel meaning 1 less non brawler popular vote, and the difficulty finding people active and willing for the panel, the expert panel was removed.

Then the discussions about voting systems made everyone forget to reexamine the expert concept in more detail later.

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