Forum Brawl #5 - Round 1 - Voting Phase

[randomperson123]

Community Vote Round 1 by randomperson123

Boss Abyss Brawlers: imo the most detailed and most awesome submission. Fiery-Hot Mixtape: This one was REALLY hard to choose because all of them were really good, but then I decided to use this one because it fit the name of the team perfectly and was actually kinda clever. Artist Abyss Brawlers: Detailed and gorgeous. Definitely one of the best-looking ones. The Chaosomes: It looks beautiful. It may have been made with a converter, but it's still very detailed and beautiful. CD A Toadally Newtral Team: Great and creative interpretation of the scientific concept! Fiery-Hot Mixtape: An interesting application of the theory of thermodynamics. DB & FE A Toadally Newtral Team: very detailed explanation of how to fix the starter decks. Definitely won me over. League of Shadows: very creative overhaul of the starter deck system. This would've definitely helped me a lot if the game used something like this when I started out. Writer The Chaosomes: the flow isn't the absolute best, but it does a good job relating to the game and definitely has a much better flow than most of the other submissions. Gaia's Pride: This isn't really related to Elements the game, but it is related to chat and it does have a reference to the game so that's enough; besides, the flow of this just brutally murders the competition.

[Aves]

Artist

Abyss Brawlers: wow... so much detail... there must have been lots of effort put into this.

The Chaosomes: Whoa... your picture is astounding... you must've taken days to make that.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ascii+art+converter

Probably takes around 5 minutes. More if they went in and added in details like Abyss Brawlers did, but the base of the image? No effort required.

[russianspy1234]

Artist

Abyss Brawlers: wow... so much detail... there must have been lots of effort put into this.

The Chaosomes: Whoa... your picture is astounding... you must've taken days to make that.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ascii+art+converter

Probably takes around 5 minutes. More if they went in and added in details like Abyss Brawlers did, but the base of the image? No effort required.

We did use an ASCII converter, but andre put effort into the base image first so definitely longer than 5 minutes.

Also, question for League of Shadows: Did three different players write your three limericks?

[Aves]

Artist

Abyss Brawlers: wow... so much detail... there must have been lots of effort put into this.

The Chaosomes: Whoa... your picture is astounding... you must've taken days to make that.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ascii+art+converter

Probably takes around 5 minutes. More if they went in and added in details like Abyss Brawlers did, but the base of the image? No effort required.

We did use an ASCII converter, but andre put effort into the base image first so definitely longer than 5 minutes.

Also, question for League of Shadows: Did three different players write your three limericks?

The image is fantastic, russianspy. No denying that. But the "ASCII" portion of an "ASCII art" submission-- well. I think we have differing perspectives there. 5 minutes for the entire thing, no. The base image is gorgeous, and the artist deserves massive kudos for that. However, using a generator is dodging the "ASCII" part of ASCII Art. 5 Minutes to take an image and throw it into a generator? I think that's an overestimate. If you fiddled with the individual characters afterwards, fine-- but the comparison between taking a masterpiece, converting it, and then adding small adjusting details, vs drawing it from scratch, and then comparing the outcomes? Well-- I think we can agree to disagree on things.

As for your query:
We collaborated on writing/editing them. I did the bases for them except the third, which was Hyroen's. Then we all pitched in with edits/suggestions.

[russianspy1234]

Artist

Abyss Brawlers: wow... so much detail... there must have been lots of effort put into this.

The Chaosomes: Whoa... your picture is astounding... you must've taken days to make that.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ascii+art+converter

Probably takes around 5 minutes. More if they went in and added in details like Abyss Brawlers did, but the base of the image? No effort required.

We did use an ASCII converter, but andre put effort into the base image first so definitely longer than 5 minutes.

Also, question for League of Shadows: Did three different players write your three limericks?

The image is fantastic, russianspy. No denying that. But the "ASCII" portion of an "ASCII art" submission-- well. I think we have differing perspectives there. 5 minutes for the entire thing, no. The base image is gorgeous, and the artist deserves massive kudos for that. However, using a generator is dodging the "ASCII" part of ASCII Art. 5 Minutes to take an image and throw it into a generator? I think that's an overestimate. If you fiddled with the individual characters afterwards, fine-- but the comparison between taking a masterpiece, converting it, and then adding small adjusting details, vs drawing it from scratch, and then comparing the outcomes? Well-- I think we can agree to disagree on things.

As for your query:
We collaborated on writing/editing them. I did the bases for them except the third, which was Hyroen's. Then we all pitched in with edits/suggestions.

I get where you're coming from, and I did account for it in my voting somewhat, but I wouldn't for example, give someone a huge edge for making the CD challenge in photoshop instead of Xeno's card maker.  This is a similar principle... though I do remember I was a bit salty during a Brawl where the Paint with Elements tool was broken and some teams found a working version while others didn't...

[Aves]

The analogy falls a bit short; CD submissions could be plain text tables and it wouldn't matter significantly, because CD is about designing the card, not the art behind it (though in actual production, it does matter a lot).

The difference is more akin to two people tasked with drawing the same scene, and they interpret their task in different ways. One takes out a pencil and starting to sketch a picture on paper, and then the other person takes out a camera, uploads the image to photoshop and starts adding in lens flares. How much work is the editor doing, vs the drawer? The editor is certainly doing work; photoshop is hard! The digital artist's final work is almost certainly more impressive, but how does it compare to the pencil and paper drawer? In terms of quality? Effort? Etc.

The pencil and paper approach is like starting from scratch; the camera is like the ASCII conversion tool, and then the extra work the digital artist is putting in is any details you are making to the text.

[Zyardran]

Team Vote Round 1 by Discord

Boss Gaia's Pride: Ain't no pride like Gaia's Pride. Toadally Newtral Team: Very creative, I also Like how the background compliments the frog. Artist Toadally Newtral Team: Very well done, Looks tidy. Abyss Brawlers: Very well made, It almost looks like the real thing if it were to be zoomed out. CD Gaia's Pride: Ain't no pride like Gaia's Pride (Very balanced, I like it.) League Of Shadows: Very interesting mechanic. DB & FE Gaia's Pride: Ain't no pride like Gaia's Pride (We did really good on it, imo.) Chaosomes: Decks look very balanced and useful. Writer Gaia's Pride: Ain't no pride like Gaia's Pride (I honestly think this was one of the better submissions.) Fiery Hot Mistake: Hilarious! Thank you for making me laugh. Poor zanz ><

[russianspy1234]

The analogy falls a bit short; CD submissions could be plain text tables and it wouldn't matter significantly, because CD is about designing the card, not the art behind it (though in actual production, it does matter a lot).

The difference is more akin to two people tasked with drawing the same scene, and they interpret their task in different ways. One takes out a pencil and starting to sketch a picture on paper, and then the other person takes out a camera, uploads the image to photoshop and starts adding in lens flares. How much work is the editor doing, vs the drawer? The editor is certainly doing work; photoshop is hard! The digital artist's final work is almost certainly more impressive, but how does it compare to the pencil and paper drawer? In terms of quality? Effort? Etc.

The pencil and paper approach is like starting from scratch; the camera is like the ASCII conversion tool, and then the extra work the digital artist is putting in is any details you are making to the text.

I feel like your example goes too far in the other direction.  Lets take "drawing the scene" as the task.  Player 1 takes colored markers to a sheet of paper and does it all in one go.  They make some mistakes, but they turn them into birds.  Player two takes a tablet and with the full power of photoshop, in particular the undo button, makes a superior scene.  Who did more work?  Now take into account the fact that instead of an expensive device and expensive software, some players used freely available software.

btw I did vote for your submission, not out of bonus points for not using a converter but for the sheer creativite flash that led to making full cards as opposed to just the art.

[Aves]

The vote is much appreciated!

Back to the discussion-- The ASCII converter is much less like an undo button, than it is like the camera. The converter allows you to take any image, and then turn that into a baseline detailed ASCII art frame around which you can make adjustments.

Would the LoS submission still hold merit if all we did was copy the card image http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/MarkOfDarkness.png and then run it through a converter? Doing this took me literally two minutes, the majority of which was finding the font that the converter used. Adding in extra/correcting detail would take effort, yes, but to start with this as a baseline after two minutes of 'work' makes an incredible difference. All of the "ASCII" in the below art submission comes from the click of a button.

This is the baseline of what putting that image into an online converter (took 10 seconds) looks like:

Spoiler for Hidden:

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Now, yes, the detail is a bit shot, and that's where human editing comes in, as well as adding in any other desired features. But compare starting with this, to starting with an empty pad/document/text editor. Makes a world of difference, no? The bulk of the work is already done by the converter.

[russianspy1234]

The vote is much appreciated!

Back to the discussion-- The ASCII converter is much less like an undo button, than it is like the camera. The converter allows you to take any image, and then turn that into a baseline detailed ASCII art frame around which you can make adjustments.

Would the LoS submission still hold merit if all we did was copy the card image http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/MarkOfDarkness.png and then run it through a converter? Doing this took me literally two minutes, the majority of which was finding the font that the converter used. Adding in extra/correcting detail would take effort, yes, but to start with this as a baseline after two minutes of 'work' makes an incredible difference. All of the "ASCII" in the below art submission comes from the click of a button.

This is the baseline of what putting that image into an online converter (took 10 seconds) looks like:

Spoiler for Hidden:

MDNDMMD8O8DNMNDDDDNNNNNMNNMNNNNOOZ7ZDDZ$??=7DNNMMNNN77ZO888DDNNNNNNMMMMMMMMOOOMM
MDN88DM8II8ZI7NIIIDNMMMMMMNNNNNN8OO$Z8ZI??ODZIZNNMMMM8O88OO88DNDNNNNMMMMMDO88OM8
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A lot of the merrit was actually in the simplicity of it, particularly having text=text of card. At this state we are just arguing degrees of how much it should matter so lets agree to disagree and let this thread back on track.

[andretimpa]

As the guy that the did the ASCII conversion thing I recommend that you try any of those converters you get with a google search and try to get something that doesn't destroy the original in some way. I made some custom modifications in the end with search replaces and scripting to get something that I considered decent, but that's purely a merit of technique.

ASCII art is anyways an inefficient way of measuring artistic abilities.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Before krzy fiddled with it:

Spoiler for Hidden:

After he fiddled with it:

Spoiler for Hidden:

As you can see, while, yes, as some stage a converter was used, a huge amount of effort was put in. We twice asked brawlmasters if converters were allowed in the creation process, and it was always 'yes'.
I understand that people will, and should vote by their own standards, that's a massive part of brawl, but I thought i should just show the development of our art

Loving brawl so far, some of the submissions are fantastic, and I hope everyone votes for the submissions they like the most, can't wait to see what future rounds throw out