ArtCrusader: Quick start! Considering you mentioned it being a sketch, I'll treat it as such. First thing that I see is that your subject lack a definition; he's a bit of a 'blob' right now. Try to use some sharper lines and stronger contrasts. Perhaps playing with the Levels would be a nice place to start; you can see where you'll go from there! I'm curious to see how you'll involve the 'changeling' concept; I'd love to see it!I thought that was what the Changeling was about. Being a blob which can turn into anything. The left arm is going to be some kind of hammer while the right one is going to be lance-ish and sharp. The left leg is shaped like the clade of a tree while the other one has claws instead of toes. Well, guess you can't see that much yet, because the contrast is low (good point there). I'll see what I can do ;)
[unrelated posts removed]The Art is for the card idea. Should it not be a match to the idea rather than some random art?
Please keep this about art, not about card ideas. Thank you!
I have a want to do this but am failing to commit mind to media. Maybe my soul is sucking back at me.and the key part
Concept:
Hate the card idea. Its name is changeling but it is an entity that is simply commiting uncontrolled mimicry once prodded. The card creator has no idea on game mechanics and the balancing of its effect seems weak and it will always be used to replicate a weapon effect. Why does a creature pretend to be a permanent or artifact? What benefit could be gained of such?
Thinking of real life and fantasy creatures that act as such. The Mimic, a creature that acts as a chest of treaure to lure prey, and various sea creatures that follow a similar action. Do these creatures echo a changeling? maybe not. An Octopus that copies a rock or coral isn't mechanically coral. The only other thing of such that would copy is something like a protoplasmic ooze ie stem cells and various creative blank media. But why do they have an attack and defense value? Ok what can be a creature and a permanent at the same time? a shape changing machine?
This will be the topic. Give it attibutes of a machine and a living mimic like a octopus. Make its back the permanent that it copies. It has no visible eyes. Its many limbs end in sharp scythe like blades acting as its feet/hands. It has a beaked mouth into which it feeds the elemental matter stripped from its prey. The permanent sprouting from its back is the most common and recognised permanent, the "Golden Hourglass"
I will get the idea to paper/png in the next few days maybe.
This will be the topic. Give it attibutes of a machine and a living mimic like a octopus. Make its back the permanent that it copies. It has no visible eyes. Its many limbs end in sharp scythe like blades acting as its feet/hands. It has a beaked mouth into which it feeds the elemental matter stripped from its prey. The permanent sprouting from its back is the most common and recognised permanent, the "Golden Hourglass"Here is my pre-spec work.
God dammit Kael xD I was sketching something similar, it was a spider instead of a floating octopus-like thing. It had a flat surface too, to spawn the desired permanent.Feel free to take it develop it in any way you'd like.
Weird.
Guess i'll change the concept then. :) see you soon, art class!
bored_ninja777: It's a start, but it's pretty flat as is. Try to work in a bit more perspective, or use a more dynamic pose. Experiment with some small scribbles, to see where you end up. You mention the colours, too; I'd really like to see some work on that. :)That's a bit disheartening. Nonetheless, you're right.
TENSUKI: I'm fairly certain that that isn't your work. I can see why you posted it, but at this point, it's prety irrelevant. This is not about the concept.
ArtCrusade: Why the heck did you start over? If a painting seems to not work out, the best thing you can do is to keep going at it until it's completely screwed up. The more you work on it the more you'll realise where you made the mistakes - this is something you learn a lot from!
Kael: Your sketch is rough, but a good (and effective) start. Your experience with technical drawing shows, and that's a great thing for concept art. However, you seem to be a bit too focused on the concept. The only requirements I gave in this assignment, was to create art for the Changeling card. That's it. Concept developments is quite a few steps further down the line.
*snip*Just realized I didn't have a post to keep tabs on this :D.
ArtCrusader:
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heres my sketch so far..(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd110366/007.jpg) (http://imageplay.net/)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd108934/sketch.jpg) (http://imageplay.net/)
i was going for a mirror like look. each permanent in the sketch is just an option really for it. hourglass, mindgate, eclipse, discord all of them black and shadowed. if i could figure out how to draw how i pictured it in my head id like to make it look like a glass like dome inside where it is filled with an amorphous substance that has the permanents sort of shaped out inside if that makes sense. as far as color i would guess using a gray on the outside and black on the shapes. the eyes idk red or purple to fit with entropy. the eyes could even be :gravity icons.
just wondering can i use bits of current element cardsWell, vrt stated that he wants no copyrighted material, but if you're just going to reference an in-game object (look at Kael's awesome hourglass, it's his own take on the item) then I guess they 'll have nothing against that.
just wondering can i use bits of current element cardsAs asymmetry said; reference using is fine. Directly copying it into a final product is not.
just wondering can i use bits of current element cardsAs asymmetry said; reference using is fine. Directly copying it into a final product is not.
I'd really like to go in-depth on everyone's work so far, but real life isn't very forgiving right now. I'll give everyone a short statement to work with, though; I hope it's alright. Please mention it if you feel you need more help!
wizelsnarf: Not quite there. I'd do a paintover, but time is lacking; I'd strongly suggest using a photoreference such as this one (http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/122689/122689,1270589440,1/stock-photo-shot-of-a-hooded-girl-looking-anxious-50370694.jpg) to check your lighting. Don't be afraid to screw things up, just use a new layer and experiment!
asymmetry: Great progress shots, and a good job so far. For depth, the simplest solutions can work: Try extending the forward part of it to overlap a little.
Kael: Great start, quite intriguing. Keep at it, but don't focus too much on keeping your lines clean. You're still in a sketch phase!
Krava: Still a bit careful with the perspective and movement lines there. I'd highly suggest just making 10 sketches of the creature, all with different poses or angles. I think there's a lot more to gain here, compositionally!
bored_ninja777: Try letting the shadow sit a little below the figure for a floating effect. I'd also highly recommend you to do the same as Krava; experiment!
Finally, let me make one thing clear: If I write a critique to someone else, chances are the same applies to your work. Any techniques or exercises I have mentioned in this thread, will be helpful to you. And if you're afraid of the workload, you could be in trouble: Lesson 2 is promising to become about 5 times as big..
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3250/changelingversion217.png) |
I want to do this, but I'm afraid that if I do what I consider confined art, my stuff that i do purely from inspiration will be tainted. I will allow anyone to take what I make and improve them. I know I should learn to draw limbs and full body structures, but wish to stay in the abstract end of art.You can never unlearn something by learning something else.
I would like to thank vrt and pepokish for providing this service.
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8740/changelingversion223.png) |
...I agree. It clashes with the horns and, as mentioned, difficult to look at. Perhaps recolor the background with a more pastel version of that pink, or lowering the brightness and flip up the contrast a touch. Other than that, it's looking really good. I am loving the texture you have on that black ooze.
And this flaming pink background is little painful to look at...
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