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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg222492#msg222492
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2010, 12:44:29 am »
I tried to take what you said into account on this second edit, vrt. Mind you I kind of understood the basics of what you said about light... Still I don't think I quite absorbed everything you said. Also, I extended the canvas as you suggested. Since it isn't square it might not fit the card correctly but this is primarily an exercise rather than for real use so I think I will just leave it as a rectangle.






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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg222691#msg222691
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2010, 06:05:15 am »
Hi... i'm finally able to post something  :)
I join this art class mostly for the huge admiration towards vrt and pepokish's artistic skills. I am certain they have a LOT of interesting stuff to share with us.


About me
Picture this if you will... I'm at my third year of graphic design, yet my drawing/painting background is almost null.
I like both traditional and digital art, with an inclination over digital.

I do (both web and print) layout design, corporate identities, photomanips, make music, bla bla. Not necessarily related to art.

I spend a lot of non-college time playing with image, audio and video editors aswell as some weirder stuff like strange attractors and experimental rubbish, 99% of the time not knowing what I want to achieve, but with an urge to do it.
Time, college and clients also hardened me regarding critiques, so if any of you guys have anything to correct, go ahead, throw your biggest stone without regrets.
Class 1, step 1 Edit: Tools as regards this... err.. PS CS4 and Wacom Bamboo. (the old one)

Still, there are probably more errors i'm not aware of and you guys are.
So, tell me my friend, what can you see? What comes into your mind as you breathe?
'cause I see colors flourishing like you'd never believe... like a pendulum swings, they swing with me!

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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg222975#msg222975
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2010, 05:27:21 pm »
Wow. That was great asymmetry. Reads like a comic and was quite humorous.


I like how far you made it in your final version, though obviously there is plenty more that could be done. I think the effects look awesome but there is definitely a disconnect between them and the rest of your work....

Okay I will leave the critiques to those more qualified to me....


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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg223594#msg223594
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2010, 09:45:45 am »
Ok started a linear model to ink over. Didn't realise my linework had got so bad.

Hourglass forming on the tabletop with halos and oraculous. Energy, curtain and tendrils to be drawn in.


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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg223670#msg223670
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2010, 01:47:37 pm »
Ow! look at the time! I better hurry...

so i changed perspective but i like it less than previous one..
I think this will be one easy to paint.


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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224352#msg224352
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2010, 04:48:06 am »
just found this and thought i might give it a go but im a terrible drawer but ill try

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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224381#msg224381
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2010, 06:02:22 am »
heres my sketch so far..
(http://imageplay.net/)
i was going for a mirror like look. each permanent in the sketch is just an option really for it. hourglass, mindgate, eclipse, discord all of them black and shadowed. if i could figure out how to draw how i pictured it in my head id like to make it look like a glass like dome inside where it is filled with an amorphous substance that has the permanents sort of shaped out inside if that makes sense.  as far as color i would guess using a gray on the outside and black on the shapes. the eyes idk red or purple to fit with entropy. the eyes could even be :gravity icons.
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my new version. still no color. i want to get the actual picture right first.. i tried to rotate it a little and gave it a shadow. it is to look like its hovering.  hopefully its better than my original
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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224483#msg224483
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2010, 10:24:37 am »
just wondering can i use bits of current element cards

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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224574#msg224574
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2010, 03:14:49 pm »
just wondering can i use bits of current element cards
Well, vrt stated that he wants no copyrighted material, but if you're just going to reference an in-game object (look at Kael's awesome hourglass, it's his own take on the item) then I guess they 'll have nothing against that.

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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224920#msg224920
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2010, 12:34:32 am »
just wondering can i use bits of current element cards
As asymmetry said; reference using is fine. Directly copying it into a final product is not.


I'd really like to go in-depth on everyone's work so far, but real life isn't very forgiving right now. I'll give everyone a short statement to work with, though; I hope it's alright. Please mention it if you feel you need more help!


wizelsnarf: Not quite there. I'd do a paintover, but time is lacking; I'd strongly suggest using a photoreference such as this one to check your lighting. Don't be afraid to screw things up, just use a new layer and experiment!

asymmetry: Great progress shots, and a good job so far. For depth, the simplest solutions can work: Try extending the forward part of it to overlap a little.

Kael: Great start, quite intriguing. Keep at it, but don't focus too much on keeping your lines clean. You're still in a sketch phase!

Krava: Still a bit careful with the perspective and movement lines there. I'd highly suggest just making 10 sketches of the creature, all with different poses or angles. I think there's a lot more to gain here, compositionally!

bored_ninja777: Try letting the shadow sit a little below the figure for a floating effect. I'd also highly recommend you to do the same as Krava; experiment!


Finally, let me make one thing clear: If I write a critique to someone else, chances are the same applies to your work. Any techniques or exercises  I have mentioned in this thread, will be helpful to you. And if you're afraid of the workload, you could be in trouble: Lesson 2 is promising to become about 5 times as big..
So long and thanks for all the fish!

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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224929#msg224929
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2010, 12:43:52 am »
just wondering can i use bits of current element cards
As asymmetry said; reference using is fine. Directly copying it into a final product is not.


I'd really like to go in-depth on everyone's work so far, but real life isn't very forgiving right now. I'll give everyone a short statement to work with, though; I hope it's alright. Please mention it if you feel you need more help!


wizelsnarf: Not quite there. I'd do a paintover, but time is lacking; I'd strongly suggest using a photoreference such as this one to check your lighting. Don't be afraid to screw things up, just use a new layer and experiment!

asymmetry: Great progress shots, and a good job so far. For depth, the simplest solutions can work: Try extending the forward part of it to overlap a little.

Kael: Great start, quite intriguing. Keep at it, but don't focus too much on keeping your lines clean. You're still in a sketch phase!

Krava: Still a bit careful with the perspective and movement lines there. I'd highly suggest just making 10 sketches of the creature, all with different poses or angles. I think there's a lot more to gain here, compositionally!

bored_ninja777: Try letting the shadow sit a little below the figure for a floating effect. I'd also highly recommend you to do the same as Krava; experiment!


Finally, let me make one thing clear: If I write a critique to someone else, chances are the same applies to your work. Any techniques or exercises  I have mentioned in this thread, will be helpful to you. And if you're afraid of the workload, you could be in trouble: Lesson 2 is promising to become about 5 times as big..

I will keep trying until the deadline is up.


Still, your last comment about the workload is not very encouraging :(

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Re: Lesson 1: An Introduction http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17021.msg224933#msg224933
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2010, 12:46:57 am »
Oh, I am so going to draw...But paper + Pencils isn't very beautiful-ish. I'll try my best though...

_______________________First Attempt_______________________________

A Morphing creature, to me, is basically like a cell or molecule. Different, yes, but still the same. It creates stuff. So I drew a cell within boundaries of 2 symmetrical spikes. Basically like a, umm, covering for the cell.

This is my first attempt (And a crappy one) but I'll try to modify it better. I just need some advice on how, since I never actually knew what to do if you finish a drawing.

And the cell has a scar  ;)

EDIT: For some reason, the picture can't come up.....http://img687.imageshack.us/i/dsc00084th.jpg

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I'm 13, and I love drawing. Mostly random things though, I like "fancy" stuff....Mostly with spikes. Or I like drawing lethal stuff, like snakes and swords etc...

Here are some stuff I drew in my school notebook today while during math.


EDIT: This one too  :(  http://img33.imageshack.us/i/dsc00085v0.jpg/

 

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