Plat Arena behaving oddly

[joebob555]

Everything about plat right now has gone wild. I(jooe15) was talking to a guy in kong chat (Mathematistic), and he had a pretty good good explanation of what he thinks is happening. So uh.. I'll paste that too.

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APR 20 - 12:56AM
Mathematistic: wtf is happening to plat?
Mathematistic: did someone figure out an ultra grinder?
jooe15: idk..
jooe15: no idea
APR 20 - 12:57AM
Mathematistic: I submitted a new deck and it's rank 15
Mathematistic: seriously
APR 20 - 12:58AM
Mathematistic: something's definitely wrong
jooe15: ya..
APR 20 - 1:02AM
jooe15: 1 hp decks back to being rare now
EirosAurora: PVP 2!
APR 20 - 1:03AM
jooe15: Why O-o
APR 20 - 1:04AM
Mathematistic: It seems that whoever this grinding guy is, he/she/it (could be a bot) has a winrate of about 30%
jooe15: Whom?
APR 20 - 1:05AM
Mathematistic: Or maybe it's just a band of people playing Pdials 24/7...
APR 20 - 1:06AM
Mathematistic: Oh and Plat is 205 now
APR 20 - 1:08AM
Mathematistic: Normally I don't visit the forums anymore, but it seems that even they are aware of the problem
Mathematistic: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/arena-bug/plat-arena-behaving-oddly/
APR 20 - 1:09AM
jooe15: I posted it in chat :S
Mathematistic: I see, yeah the frequency of plays...
APR 20 - 1:13AM
jooe15: I can understand somebody playing a ton, but that doesn't help solve why their are so many 1 hp decks
jooe15: there*
mukund135: hmm, i have a guess
APR 20 - 1:14AM
mukund135: 2 bots. one that plays and fights the good decks + auto-concedes to 1hp decks
mukund135: then another on the "main" account that simply runs through and tries to beat everyone
jooe15: ah...
APR 20 - 1:15AM
mukund135: since the 1hp decks keep winning from bot1, they get pushed up in rating and so bot2 can get them more often
APR 20 - 1:16AM
Mathematistic: Not just 1hp decks, a lot of old decks are getting uprates
jooe15: do you think bot 2 is simply a player? if so, how would we find him/her?
jooe15: it would look just like any other player
mukund135: no idea
Mathematistic: There's nothing abnormal about the winrate, the amount of plays is the wrong stat
jooe15: :/
APR 20 - 1:17AM
Mathematistic: wrong as in fishy
jooe15: Ah..
APR 20 - 1:18AM
Mathematistic: And given how easy it is to play Pdials near-optimally
Mathematistic: with a protocol
jooe15: I see...
Mathematistic: May not even be Pdials, could be Kamikaze (that explains the water mark losses)
APR 20 - 1:19AM
jooe15: Ah..

[Calindu]

No, it's a hack most likely, let's suppose every single deck in plat is bad against PDials, that still doesn't explain how 2 bots can play so much in such a short amount of time. Most people claim that they got like 4+ losses in 1 hour, even if we take the average as 2 plays per arena deck, that's 1000 games in 1 hour, while I can estimate the average for plat at about 3500-4000 plays per day.
But that's not even the case, because a large number of decks in plat are good against PDials, making it impossible for a bot to win 8 games in a row without dropping a game(That's the case with my arena deck, which had 3 purifies splashed in an air rush).

[joebob555]

Ya, I guess you could be right. -- or it could just be a whole lot of bots. I should point out that a lot of people that have noticed the weirdness are taking this opportunity to grind like mad. -- which could account for some of the extra plays.

[Sera]

This only hurts the people who grind fairly, as the reward is sharply dropping. This is most likely a hack. The influx of 1hp decks is not because of some 2nd bot, there's no incentive in doing that at all. It's due to arena still adjusting to rating with the ridiculously high winrate bot, pushing out decks early and reviving the dead decks. Check the age of the bottom 100 decks.

[Manuel]

the situation seem a "better" now: ratings are normal, there are no longer decks with -rating

[andretimpa]

Still far from normal. 1HP decks are still popping up like mad. What may be happening is people skipping these new decks and hunting for the old ones, so that counteracts the bot a bit.

[willng3]

This is why we can't have nice things.

[joebob555]

Plat T25

Apr 20, 1:00 AM PST: The average deck was 1.41 days old with 9.36 plays(7.56W/1.80L) and a score of 17.24
Apr 20, 3:00 AM PST: The average deck was 1.32 days old with 11.16 plays(8.92W/2.24L) and a score of 66.60

Apr 20, 1:00 PM PST: The average deck was 0.92 days old with 13.08 plays(11.00W/2.08L) and a score of 255.96
Apr 20, 3:00 PM PST: The average deck was 1.12 days old with 15.36 plays(12.48W/2.88L) and a score of 274.52

Apr 21, 1:00 AM PST: The average deck was 1.92 days old with 16.56 plays(12.84W/3.72L) and a score of 353.64
Apr 21, 3:00 AM PST: The average deck was 1.88 days old with 17.52 plays(13.52W/4.00L) and a score of 328.56

[Solaris]

[10:05:34 PM] ‹MeowMeowCat› plat has catapulted off it's rocker and currently approaches interstellar space

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[Manuel]

my deck was at 3-0 2 hours ago, then 4-3, payout at 134
time to make new deck, already got a lose, payout at 133, while i'm writing is at 132

is this normal? 3 days ago the payout was at 146, wtf

[TribalTrouble]

my deck was at 3-0 2 hours ago, then 4-3, payout at 134
time to make new deck, already got a lose, payout at 133, while i'm writing is at 132

is this normal? 3 days ago the payout was at 146, wtf

screenshots?

[Manuel]

for the payout thing i have found this



from here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/platinum-league-decks/pixelated-platinum-decks/12/, i think is from july 27 or 28, and i write this in my plat deck thread some days ago

lol 14 plays with the payout at 147

now is again at 133, maybe i was really really really unlucky, but looking at the top ten http://www.elementsthegame.com/arena.php?rank=1&league=4 the first deck has 2 lose, 2 weeks ago with 2 lose u were lucky to be in the top 10