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Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg490078#msg490078
« on: April 30, 2012, 02:54:58 PM »
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The SoSa isn't strictly necessary, could be replaced, but it can give some much needed healing to buy time for the win.

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The decks are based on the combo: Deja-Vu + quintessence + Shard of Wisdom = 2x6 spell damage untargetable creatures at the cost of (2 :time + 3 :aether + 1 :rainbow) = 6 total quanta.
So you get 12 spell damage for 6 quanta and they are immune to CC. Pretty good deal IMHO. Plus with the SoFr it could be even 18 damage.

Strategy tips:
1. hold back playing SoFr until your damage is out on the field and can afford it
2. do not play DejaVu if you can't quint it right away
3. if you have more SoW in the hand than Vu, you may play multiple on a single Vu before splitting


A little bit of statistics. I ran the game simulator by Xenocidius on the fat version 1000x versus FGs, and this is what I got:
Player
Wins: 357
Winrate: 35.7 %
Average TTW: 19.34
EMs: 24
EM rate: 6.72 %

Computer
Wins: 643
Winrate: 64.3 %
Average TTW: 14.5
EMs: 346
EM rate: 53.81 %
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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg490081#msg490081
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 03:02:27 PM »
I know it's a trio, but deja+momentum+adrenaline gives 24 damage for 6 quanta too  :P
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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg490082#msg490082
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 03:05:54 PM »
I know it's a trio, but deja+momentum+adrenaline gives 24 damage for 6 quanta too  :P

True, but those are still easy to CC, even mass-CC, in addition to the harder quanta balance.
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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg490086#msg490086
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 03:10:54 PM »
I know it's a trio, but deja+momentum+adrenaline gives 24 damage for 6 quanta too  :P
True, but those are still easy to CC, even mass-CC, in addition to the harder quanta balance.
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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg490090#msg490090
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 03:22:31 PM »
and as mentioned you can SoW a dejavu more than once then split it. cool idea anyways

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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg490092#msg490092
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 03:29:23 PM »
Interesting idea, looks fun to play.
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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg507271#msg507271
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2012, 05:37:34 PM »
I've been playing around with a similar deck in PVP2.  I get turn 5 - 7 wins unless the draw is really terrible.  The worst matchup by FAR is mono fire rush ... any suggestions?

I played up to 6 Quints but you rarely need more than 2 and the precogs find them easily.  I had a SoFr but it never proc'd so I took it out ... it seem like a much longer game plan to go that way anyway ;)

The quanta is 90% reliable ... but I would like to upgrade 2 more aether pends to replace the time tower/Pend

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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg507291#msg507291
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2012, 06:35:02 PM »
I've been playing around with a similar deck in PVP2.  I get turn 5 - 7 wins unless the draw is really terrible.  The worst matchup by FAR is mono fire rush ... any suggestions?

I played up to 6 Quints but you rarely need more than 2 and the precogs find them easily.  I had a SoFr but it never proc'd so I took it out ... it seem like a much longer game plan to go that way anyway ;)

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2012, 06:48:03 PM »
This deck is awesome! Again, sadly I don't have the shards yet.
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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg507323#msg507323
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2012, 08:14:24 PM »
Looks very neat. It sorta reminds me of my SoFrepi vus, but I like the idea of quints as they stop deja vu's biggest weak point, control.

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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg507344#msg507344
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2012, 09:31:55 PM »
I really like the idea.  SoFre gets rid of SoW's reflective weakness and now you have a swarm of little... things... that simply cannot be touched.  Except for Flooding, but who uses that?

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Re: Wise-Vu http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39415.msg507353#msg507353
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2012, 10:00:00 PM »
I really like the idea.  SoFre gets rid of SoW's reflective weakness and now you have a swarm of little... things... that simply cannot be touched.  Except for Flooding, but who uses that?

Oh yeah ... good call Drake!  I just auto folded when I saw thase shields lol
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