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Time/Aether with Gravity Mark(Pharaoh) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60197#msg60197
« on: April 28, 2010, 02:27:45 am »
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 -1 Fractal -1 Eletrucutor.

 

General Strategy:


  This deck is designed to avoid bad hands.In a 47 cards deck, there are 15 Time towers and 6 electrum hourglasses. You have good chances to have a hourglasses in second turn, and 2 hourglasses in third turn. This means that you can equal the draw power of FG early. Also, with two eternities, you can play it two rewind FG creature in a regular basis. This slows down the FG.


The four Shards of gratitude heals you, and make that you can cast Phase Shields lately, usually when you have less than 50 HP. With the power of drawing, it means that you have ever Phase Shields on hand ready to chain. Sometimes, with the healing of Shards , you can take a turn without casting Phase Shield in this way each Phase Shield gives you 4 turns of inmunity. The IA uses to target first Eternity then Electrum Hourglasses and finally Phase Shields,so they are relatively secure.

This set-up give you time to cast Anubis-quintessence and Pharaon-Quintaessence,and start to do scarabs. They'll eat the entire board slowly. You only have 1 gravity quanta per turn, so when you start eating creatures you'll have 10-20 gravity quanta. You have to choose carefully wich creatures eat, eating-rewinding the most annoying ones.

When you have the lock done, you have to stop use haste, at this point you'll have 10-20 cards in the deck. You need this turns without hastening for rewinding nasty enemy creatures and increasing your swarm. This deck is very slow damaging the oponent, and for instance, playing against miracle is the slowly win that you can imagine.

This deck wins all the FG without permanent control without any problem, it's slow but safe.

The main problems are momentum creatures and permanent destruction. I haven't faced yet decay and seism, but I supose that this deck loses to them.





 



 The mark is gravity: to use scarabs ability.

Deck Composition:


15 Time Towers

4  Shards of Gratitude

6 Electrum Hourglasses: To draw and to decoy, it's targeted before the phase shields.

1 Elite Anubis:

2 Elite Pharaons: To make a swarm.

2 Eternity:To avoid deckout and to slow down FG. Due to 15 Time Towers, you can use it every turn.

6 Aether Tower

1 Twin Universe: It can be used to TU one of your creatures, or against goods with miracle, to copy the most powerful creature, calculating the damage to avoid him to play miracle.


6 Phase Shield: To gain time to set up the scarabs.


2 Quintaessences: 1 on the Elite Anubis and the other on the Pharaon



Other cards that can be useful:-Animate Weapon, to animate Eternitys and protect it with Anubis.
                                                 -The Time Nimph and the Aether Nimph also will suit well in the deck.


-The deck works best without the fractal and without the electrocuter, they usually  only slows the deck.




 The deck is very slow. Well is fast at set-up, but is slow at doing damage.


Results:- Osiris 1 win/0 loses : You have to stall and rewind the creatures with momentum. An early electrocutor is also very helpful.
           
               -Elidnis 3 wins/0 loses:  Easy mach for this deck. You eat the creatures and he can't heal.

               -Neptune 2 wins/0 loses: Well, Neptune is easy for all decks:)

               -Eternal Phoenix 1 win/3 loses: He's very fast and destroys permanents./ Finally I defeated him :)

               -Ferox: 2 wins/o loses:
               
               -Graviton: 0 wins/3 loses: Due to unestopable creatures.

               -Miracle 1 win/0 loses: It's very boring, because he plays 5 or 6 miracles before dying.

              -Morte 3 wins/0 loses: If he has a bonewell, don't eat his creatures, only do scarabs(protected by anubis) and atack. If he has 12 or more white quanta he can cast miracle, so don't let have this quanta,eating before his Rays or rewing the pegasus and then he will cast again, until he has less than 12 white quanta.


              -Rainbow 1 win/3loses: He will destroy steal all.
         
             -Divine Glory: 0 win/1 lose : Nothing to eat.

           -Scorpio 1 win/1 lose : Lose due to venom.

            -Dark Mater:0 win/ 1 lose: Momentum creatures and quantum denial makes it hard.

            -Destiny 2 win/ 0 lose

            -Octane 1 win/ 0 lose

           -Gemini 2 wins/2 loses  You have to time very well, because he have phase shields, and you need to deal with momentum creatures, so you'll need some turns to rewind. Let a Phase Recluse (the 7/2 creature) alive so he will waste his TU on him, and then you can kill it.

           -Chaos Lord 1 win/ 2 loses: It spends your time, because the Dissipation Field. Rewind the creature that cost more to cast, because he will waste more quanta eache turn.

           -Hermes 2 wins/1 lose: Useful to Tu a growned Lave Destroyer to finish. He is dangerous with fire lances. Let some scarabs unprotected(no more than three because rain of fire) to make him lance his fire lances on them.

            -Paradox 2 wins/0 lose: Eat his Rays before he can cast miracle (or let him cast and do againg 200 damage,hehe)

            -Dream Catcher 0 wins/1 lose

             -Incarnate 1 win/1 lose

            -Decay:   0 win/1 lose

Total 26 wins/ 20 loses
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 05:27:12 am by willng3 »

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60207#msg60207
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2010, 03:35:00 am »
16/23 is about a 70% win rate. That's impressive.


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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60215#msg60215
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2010, 04:43:42 am »
Space for post most screenshots of the deck in action

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60258#msg60258
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2010, 11:06:22 am »
I'm not sure we should get excited with such a small sample (not saying the deck is bad). Also, if the results were obtained in the trainer, I'm not sure that they are reliable.
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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60286#msg60286
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2010, 12:47:01 pm »
I'm not sure we should get excited with such a small sample (not saying the deck is bad). Also, if the results were obtained in the trainer, I'm not sure that they are reliable.

Hello, yes I don't fight against Decay, Seism, that and only one game to Dream Catcher, who also destroys the deck. And I also think that it's a small sample, minium 100 games to clarify, but the games are not in trainer, it's in real game. The deck combines ideas from one deck named Eternal Concordance, who I have tried in real game an it works, with the new card Pharaon. I also have tried before several decks and stalling ones like Seravy's Rainbow are those that suit better for my style.

 I think that a deck like mine have better % than other rainbow, but games last two or three times more, so there is not the best option for make money.

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60390#msg60390
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2010, 06:21:41 pm »
Looking at your deck, I am guessing max 40-45% in the long run

Having said that, 2 things
1) please use deck code importer
2) its an awesome deck, tho I would do more testing and minor tweaks

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60526#msg60526
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2010, 10:04:50 pm »
Looking at your deck, I am guessing max 40-45% in the long run

Having said that, 2 things
1) please use deck code importer
2) its an awesome deck, tho I would do more testing and minor tweaks
Hello Yaladie, about 1, I am learning to do it, I have seen your deck's post and are very well done, especially the video section.


About second point I am sure it needs more testing and tweaks. For instance I put 15 Time Towers, because I have 15 Time Towers upped, I have done the deck with what I have found. Also Time Nimph with its drawing ability and damage and  Aether Nimph with quintaessence ability will suit very well in the deck, because they will do damage, that it one of the drawbacks of the deck and his abilities will helps too.

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60666#msg60666
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 05:29:32 am »
Looking at your deck, I am guessing max 40-45% in the long run
Arbitrary math is arbitrary.

Time/Aether has always been a great combination, and has seen some test runs against the false gods with pretty much every single patch. Unfortunately, most of the new false gods have all kinds of protection for their creatures or have ways to shut down yours. The good thing about this deck is the fact that it has a fair chance against most false gods if it survives long enough. The hard part is surviving long enough...

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60698#msg60698
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2010, 10:24:52 am »
i like this kmind of combo , i'm working on something like this , a little lighter too , 40ish card , if i may suggest one thing , just add an upgraded flying weapon , so you can fly and quint on of your eternity and not bother about it being destroyed .

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60705#msg60705
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2010, 11:03:54 am »
nice deck, few suggestions:
1.  8-10 towers is enough, 4 phase shield is enough
2.  take out 2 hourglass, add 2-4 lightning in this deck would be nice for your aether element 3.  eternity take off one, dunno why u want 2, so u won't get it as last card? don't worry, that is likely but chances of it happening isn't high. add in an upped animated weapon so you can quint it like the dude above said
4. the time shield u can add 1 or 2, up to u

you mentioned this deck loose the perm control FGs, so i'm not sure whether ur point in having so many shields is to be used as a decoy so FGs can destroy them instead of your shards, either way its' not rly counted as safe. Since your shards are your only hp regen source, battle would go downhill if they get destroyed or massive damage monsters just overrun them before you get enough scarabs out.

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Re: Lluis83 Time/Aether with Gravity Mark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5883.msg60764#msg60764
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2010, 02:45:51 pm »
i like this kmind of combo , i'm working on something like this , a little lighter too , 40ish card , if i may suggest one thing , just add an upgraded flying weapon , so you can fly and quint on of your eternity and not bother about it being destroyed .

Well, the deck works, but is slow and boring a lot.

 

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