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Title: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate. New update.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 01, 2012, 10:40:04 pm

Hi folks. I made this deck just to see how it would work and it worked better than I thought. I have been playing 72 games and I have won 37 and lost 34 of them. (I will update this static's over time)

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5lg 6rt 6rt 6rt 6rt 6rt 6s2 6s2 71a 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 8po

No strange with this deck. Play the sosacs when needed, never play cremas if not needed. A cremated phoenix can be reborn the very next turn. If you want you can change the shield for a GP, GP aslo works good with sofo you can also change the shield for another sosac or a purify. The weapon works good with sosac since sosac dosen't eat death quanta + in some games if you get it early it makes opponent use their Purifies on the poison instead of the sosacs.

So here is a deck for you who want to grind plat with rush.

Spoiler for bravery based deck.

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5lg 6rt 6rt 6rt 6rt 6s2 6s2 6s3 6s3 6s3 6s3 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7gq 8po

Since I have gotten low win rate lately I tried some changes and come up with this. I haven't played enough yet to say win rate,  but hopefully I have in the coming few days.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: vivimancer on December 02, 2012, 06:29:56 am

I know ten games is a small sample size but i did a little testing in plat and these were my results;

lost vs 168hp dragonfly/blue dragon
lost vs 157hp SoSe rainbow
lost vs 150hp graboid/shreiker rush
lost vs 151hp Sofo/soD
won vs 141hp fire rush 6 turns
lost vs 200hp gravity/water
won vs 190hp light/gravity 9 turns
lost vs 177hp rainbow rush
won vs 165hp quint/phase shield rainbow 8 turns
lost vs 190hp mono-life rush

I'd still prefer to use either day-traitors or Splat, nice idea tho

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 02, 2012, 07:26:17 am

I'd like to see a record of the games that you won 55% of with this deck.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 02, 2012, 09:51:52 am

Quote from: eaglgenes101 on December 02, 2012, 07:26:17 am

I'd like to see a record of the games that you won 55% of with this deck.

Well I can take screenshots every turn but to record them would be hard, so what you want me to do? I will add more staticks game for game I'm gonna take screenshots every start of the game and every last turn either win or lose.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 02, 2012, 11:33:19 am

Ok played 10 more matches here is the result. I have to excuse myself for not knowing the name of all the decks.

lost vs 163hp graboid/shreiker rush with wardens

(http://imageshack.us/a/img407/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)     
(http://imageshack.us/a/img20/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)         

lost vs 148hp Steam machine deck with squids

(http://imageshack.us/a/img138/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img703/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)   

Won vs 183hp Fire rush

Forgot to make first pic.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img59/5162/skarmavbild20121202kl10.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)

Won vs 168hp Rainbow

(http://imageshack.us/a/img209/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img211/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)

Won vs 111hp Water bow

(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
Forgot to make start hand pic.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)

Won vs 184hp Pharao deck

(http://imageshack.us/a/img32/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
Forgot to make it again so I made it when I remembered it(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img209/813/skarmavbild20121202kl11d.png)

Lost vs 131hp Fire rush

(http://imageshack.us/a/img26/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img836/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)

Won vs 1hp life deck. Don't know if this counts

(http://imageshack.us/a/img823/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)

Lost vs 193hp rainbow with lighting.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img805/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)
Forgot to make middle picture
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/5172/skarmavbild20121202kl11.png)

The last 2 games is played a bit late since I've started on this thread and realised I've only played 8 games.

Lost vs 198hp Dark deck. The shield was my lose.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img13/6753/skarmavbild20121202kl12.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img515/6753/skarmavbild20121202kl12.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img12/6753/skarmavbild20121202kl12.png)

Lost vs 183hp Rainbow with Bone wall and squids.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img84/6753/skarmavbild20121202kl12.png)
Once again I forgot to take this pic:(
(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/6753/skarmavbild20121202kl12.png)

Since I hasn't had any use for the shield so far I'm very close to change it to a GP, for both cc and sofo. I'm changing it to a unupped thought to get it out easier and not to steal ife from the sosacs. I'm also considering changing a golem for a rain of fire.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 03, 2012, 12:56:11 am

The headers for each of those games should be enough for a record. No turn-by-turn description or screenshot needed.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: UnderneathTheLens on December 03, 2012, 01:28:50 am

Sure why not:

Game 1 - Won vs. Rainbow that focused on flying weapons; 198 hp
Game 2 - Won vs. Monodark 190 hp, 1 turn off from an EM
Game 3 - Won, Monoaether SoSac 195 hp
Game 4 - Loss, Graboid rush with infinite RTs - I had no chance
Game 5 - Loss, novabow with too much CC (especially RTs)
Game 6 - Loss, timebow with antimatter + RTs + bonewalls + healing (the combination got me)
Game 7 - Won with EM, 160 HP timebow
Game 8 - Loss, draw was complete crap
Game 9 - Won, 196 HP Lava Rush
Game 10 - Loss, MonoAir; wyrms and SoFr and lighting storms (ugh how many did he have) are annoying

50% after 10 games isn't half bad, even less so once you consider the fact that this deck is quite fast

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 03, 2012, 03:39:11 pm

Thank you vivimancer and UnderneathTheLens for the statisk. And I'm glad that you are happy with the screenshots eaglgenes101.

Every static is welcome even if you don't have match by match and so on.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Ullapool on December 07, 2012, 05:39:34 pm

Game 1 - LOST vs. Flying fahrenheit and rain of fire
Game 2 - won vs life, Giant Frog, Scorpion, Spine shield rush
Game 3 - LOST vs SoF-heavy Rainbow (Mind Flayer / lobo destroyed me).  Loboed all my SoFs and Destroyers, didn't do enough damage / turn to
'refill' the 40 damage I inflicted to myself w/ SoSac.  PhaseShield sealed the deal.
Game 4 - LOST vs Poison, Flesh Recluse, Arsenic, Skull Buckler (ugh!)
Game 5 - LOST vs. Life, Giant Frog, Rush (was going well until he Purified me and removed the SoSac)
Game 6 - LOST vs Life, Giant Frog Adrenaline, Mitosis, Cockatrice - wayyyy too fast
Game 7 - won vs. Gargoyle, Pest, Earth-splash
Game 8 - LOST vs. Reverse Time, Elite Graboids, Ghost of the Past - RTime kept preventing me from drawing enough SoSac to stay in this
Game 9 - LOST vs. Discord, Antimatter, Pandemonium, SoFocus, Amethyst Dragon
Game 10 -LOST  vs. SoFreedom, Sky Dragon, Damselfly, Shockwaves

Yet to find a single time when Reflective shield or arsenic were useful

Best thing about the deck is lack of permanents (except arsenic) that can be
destroyed in the heavy SoFocus environment.

Arsenic requires 2 Cremations to get going :(.

So that's 20% win rate in plat in my testing.  I don't think anyone's seen as high of a win-rate as the original poster.  Probably fair to say it was a lucky streak and move on from using this deck.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 10, 2012, 07:32:06 am

Nha I don't think lucky streak since I'm still getting around 5 wins out of 10. I think you was a bit unlucky with your matches and I also think it take some time to learn how to play this deck most effectively. The shield is there to prevent purifies and the weapon is there for cheap damage+it also causes opponent to use the early purifies they might have.

Thank you for feedback and statisk.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: takezoido on December 10, 2012, 03:25:57 pm

heh, i played it a bit some time ago and i won my first 6 games, though if i remember correctly 1 opponent had 1 hp.
i think i played more 2 and lost, and stopped playing. i got pretty nice results with it, i'm surprised people lost that much.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 10, 2012, 07:40:27 pm

Quote from: takezoido on December 10, 2012, 03:25:57 pm

heh, i played it a bit some time ago and i won my first 6 games, though if i remember correctly 1 opponent had 1 hp.
i think i played more 2 and lost, and stopped playing. i got pretty nice results with it, i'm surprised people lost that much.

Thank you for charing statisk. I bet you was a bit lucky but even so it counts.

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: neuroleptics on December 31, 2012, 08:07:16 am

well, should the new patch come out..../ version this deck will not be viable. I love the idea, something new but i think all of us should start creating decks using new strategies. My mono sosac death might still work but not gonna be s powerful as before. one example of deck wouldn't work if no modifications done ---> instosis. Just look in the trainer

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Blacksmith on December 31, 2012, 01:12:22 pm

Quote from: neuroleptics on December 31, 2012, 08:07:16 am

well, should the new patch come out..../ version this deck will not be viable. I love the idea, something new but i think all of us should start creating decks using new strategies. My mono sosac death might still work but not gonna be s powerful as before. one example of deck wouldn't work if no modifications done ---> instosis. Just look in the trainer

Agreed even if you produce death quanta it would be imposible to make it work. And I'm glad you like the idea:)

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: Pineapple on December 31, 2012, 02:11:17 pm

Quote from: Blacksmith on December 31, 2012, 01:12:22 pm

Quote from: neuroleptics on December 31, 2012, 08:07:16 am

well, should the new patch come out..../ version this deck will not be viable. I love the idea, something new but i think all of us should start creating decks using new strategies. My mono sosac death might still work but not gonna be s powerful as before. one example of deck wouldn't work if no modifications done ---> instosis. Just look in the trainer

Agreed even if you produce death quanta it would be imposible to make it work. And I'm glad you like the idea:)

Hm? I see nothing wrong with this deck aside from the fact that there are SoFos. Just replace them with Explosions, and you're good to go...?

Title: Re: Rush plat grinder with 55% win rate.
Post by: kimham8a on December 31, 2012, 02:41:44 pm

But changing 6 destroys for 2 will reduce winrate a lot. This deck will be crippled IMO. Arsenic should be taken out too, not enough :death. GP can't be used on SoFo either.
But yes maybe it's still viable didn't try in trainer much so idk this is all guesswork for me.