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Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539219#msg539219
« on: September 05, 2012, 05:36:14 am »
Patient Devtal


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Everyone has heard of Devtal... quite an effective deck. Combine it with the Devourer's ability to burrow and throw in an SoP while they're burrowed, then you get some hard-hitting Dev's and a quanta-locked opponent.

Idea goes to ItzSean who told me about it in chat, then we came up with this.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 10:30:10 pm by Gocubbies1212 »
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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539391#msg539391
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 03:05:06 am »
Looks good, i might try it, but what are the decks weaknesses?

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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539395#msg539395
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 03:16:26 am »
Looks good, i might try it, but what are the decks weaknesses?
Nightmare, sanct, PC, AoE, fast rushes

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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539396#msg539396
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 03:17:29 am »
so far, only explosions and fast rushes... explosions destroy the shields and shards, rushes are too fast haha


edit: what furballdn said
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 03:19:16 am by Gocubbies1212 »
[02:20:36] jmdt: i think gocubbies will win the underworld tourny
I failed to account for the gocubbies factor. - Boingo
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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539397#msg539397
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 03:22:32 am »
Nightmare really is a weakness against all fractal decks. PC, kinda, but you could find some way to work in a PA or two. AoEs, hardly, it's only a problem if you cant bury fast enough, and if you cant, then you fractaled at a wrong time. Fast rushes beat anyone not perfectly ready to counter, not just this deck.

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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539465#msg539465
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 01:03:53 pm »
When I un/burrow the Pests they loose all their cummulated attack. Is that a bug or a feature?

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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539503#msg539503
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 03:45:24 pm »
When I un/burrow the Pests they loose all their cummulated attack. Is that a bug or a feature?

That...sounds like a bug, actually.
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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539549#msg539549
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 07:02:27 pm »
When I un/burrow the Pests they loose all their cummulated attack. Is that a bug or a feature?

That...sounds like a bug, actually.

Testing in both regular game and trainer was unable to reproduce this bug. Burrow -> SoP -> unburrow resulted in a current attack equal to twice the number of turns spent under SoP, just like when SoP was first released. Even in more complicated examples involving multiple burrows, they never any attack beyond the usual rounding down (which is far from all their attack).

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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539557#msg539557
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 08:44:17 pm »
When I un/burrow the Pests they loose all their cummulated attack. Is that a bug or a feature?

This makes it sound like you're re burrowing after the first unburrow, post SoPa discarding. You dont do that. Play a pest, fractal, play all the pests but one for refractaling, burrow them, play sopa, wait as many turns as you can. Weaken the HP down with siphons/ remove shields before attacking of course.

Edit: Also, you might wanna add the [OTK] tag to the title. The possiblity to OTK is very likely, even without siphons or otherwise.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 08:49:09 pm by ItzSean »
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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg539721#msg539721
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 06:47:56 am »
When I un/burrow the Pests they loose all their cummulated attack. Is that a bug or a feature?

I reproduced it and came to the conclusion that it is no bug but a feature. They do not loose their cummulated attack at all. When burrowing the attack is only halfed and after the first round of SoP (+1 attck) the attack became 0 which looked to me like loosing the gained attack power. So I was a little bit too quick to bother you, sorry. Unborrowing doubles the attack again as intended.

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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg540010#msg540010
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 12:09:21 am »
It's no bother, just making sure it was working correctly.
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Re: Patient Devtal [SoP][PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43263.msg540076#msg540076
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2012, 04:25:32 am »
I don't think 4 pests is enough. Even with 6 you'll see them all in the bottom half sometimes. Plus fractal is expensive, so even if you get an early pest it will be a while before you can multiply it, and probably too late for an effective lockdown. I think a mitosis version would be better than this.

 

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