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Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443097#msg443097
« on: December 28, 2011, 02:42:56 pm »
NAME:
Squid
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
:darkness : Ink
Cloak your field for one turn. Turns into Arctic Squid if targeted with Freeze.
NAME:
Octopus
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 3
TEXT:
:darkness : Ink
Cloak your field for one turn. Turns into Arctic Octopus if targeted with Freeze.
ART:
Art from Elements the Game
IDEA:
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NOTES:
This gives Water two things:

1. Permanent and creature protection. Water is often regarded as one of the weakest, if not the weakest, element. It currently lacks ability to protect its creatures and permanents; this rectifies that, making it a stronger element.

2. Synergy with Darkness. Water is known for its synergies with almost every element; Darkness is the only element with which it has no notable synergies.

The Cloak effect works by simply generating a Cloak card with 1 turn left on your field.
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443136#msg443136
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 04:45:43 pm »
I am all for this effect, but I think things like Inkfish, have already been done. Put it at a 2/4 and change the art, I'd be quite content.

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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443141#msg443141
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 04:56:43 pm »
aye, creatures delaying permanents is already in level 3: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7206.0.html
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443150#msg443150
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 05:38:48 pm »
The mechanic has been done before, but not with the same theme/vehicle.
The theme has been done before, but not with the same mechanic.

Also, isn't 2+ turns a bit too much?

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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443160#msg443160
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 06:49:36 pm »
The effect isn't what I think of when I think of a creature inking ( a cloak affect is more realistic) and the idea you're going for has been done before sadly...still like the card overall.
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443174#msg443174
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2011, 08:55:21 pm »
The effect isn't what I think of when I think of a creature inking ( a cloak affect is more realistic) and the idea you're going for has been done before sadly...still like the card overall.
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443179#msg443179
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 09:11:31 pm »
The effect isn't what I think of when I think of a creature inking ( a cloak affect is more realistic) and the idea you're going for has been done before sadly...still like the card overall.
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443214#msg443214
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 01:48:26 am »
A Cloak effect would be interesting ... On that note, I put a new version in the OP. Thoughts?
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443227#msg443227
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 03:12:42 am »
Much better.
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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443240#msg443240
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 05:50:20 am »
What? permanent protection for  :water? I approve.

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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg443293#msg443293
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 01:34:58 pm »
Liked the first one better, since the theme of "squids blinding stuff" has been done before.

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Re: Squid | Octopus http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35160.msg1020587#msg1020587
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2012, 08:20:33 am »
:darkness is much, much too low for such an ability, in my opinion.

Consider:

1) Cloak essentially grants immaterial/enchanted to all creatures and permanents (with minor vulnerability like Plague). With 4 creatures and 4 unique permanent stacks (a conservative guess at 'average'), it would cost 24 quanta spread across two elements (without Annubis), or 24 quanta spread across three elements (with Annubis as a fifth creature) to accomplish the same feat. (all numbers from unupgraded)

2) 6 Cloaks cost exactly 4 x 6 = 24 quanta. That gives 18 turns of protection. 24 quanta with Ink provides 24 turns of protection.

3) Cloak can be destroyed and stolen. This ability cannot be disrupted. (did not read properly)

4) 1 Plague takes away 3 turns of protection. 1 Plague takes away 1 turn of Ink.

 

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