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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470376#msg470376
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2012, 11:08:33 am »
This shard is harder to splash in generic deck, but it has powerful synergy with SoI :o

EDIT: OK after some testing, generally a weak shard. You really need at least 4+ in early game to make an impact. Even with SoI, it is difficult to do the shard split.
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470381#msg470381
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 11:51:46 am »
Can creatures with Dive crit after Diving?

Edit: Yes, they can.  Cool.

Edit 2:  After a bunch more playing... I really don't feel like this shard offers much except shield bypass in the late game.  For rushes its better just to have another creature, and it takes 3+ shards to really have an impact.  This is also the only shard that doesn't offer some bonus to its own element.  What if the % chance was doubled to 30% with an air mark?

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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470383#msg470383
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 12:13:53 pm »
I like this - especially if those babies are stackable to increase critical hit chances.
Ignoring shields is also _very_ badass.

Sounds very powerfull to me. Flying weapons and vampires, ignoring shields, critical hits.
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470384#msg470384
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2012, 12:30:24 pm »
This is also the only shard that doesn't offer some bonus to its own element.  What if the % chance was doubled to 30% with an air mark?
I think the bonus is given by the fact that all :air creatures (5 species), the :air weapon and every flying weapon (which is still somehow connected to the :air mark) are airborne while the other elements only have their respective dragon and one or two smaller critters. Thus you can consider the effect somehow doubled ;) . Seems like spiders will become way more useful in near future ...

And in case I haven't said this yet: I like the new shards except Shard of Focus. Wonder if Shard of Justice is just a new name for Shard of Conscience or if SoJ will have an ability different from controlling the quanta cap.

EDIT: Changed "SoF" into Shard of Focus. I like Shard of Freedom but didn't notice that the abbreviation could be the same!
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470387#msg470387
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2012, 12:49:47 pm »
Is Blue Nymph airborne? IIRC it's not.
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470388#msg470388
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2012, 12:54:38 pm »
Is Blue Nymph airborne? IIRC it's not.
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470390#msg470390
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2012, 01:00:47 pm »
Is Blue Nymph airborne? IIRC it's not.
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470408#msg470408
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2012, 02:30:14 pm »
While I strongly enjoy ENTROPY and it's randomness, I dislike how it bleeds into other elements. Air already has fog shield.

This also makes stuff like diving even crazier, as mentioned. And Mass dive + sky blitz + this is nearly unstoppable once you get it running.
The shield bypass is a more important part of this, IMO. I would almost have liked simply the shield bypass part of it. Without the random damage increases.

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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470418#msg470418
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2012, 03:03:19 pm »
Not sure if I like it. The effect also doesn't really fit the name as I see it. I'd imagine Shard of Freedom to allow you or your creatures to act freely, effectively stopping denial or disabling effects. Of course, this would be situational and quite bad, so it's not good. But the name suggests an ability like that to me.

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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470421#msg470421
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2012, 03:18:54 pm »
Bypassing shields makes sense for free.  The problem right now, is that 15% chance to do 50% extra damage is really bad.  To put it into perspective, one shard is 1/14 of a creature in a creature spam deck.  Much easier to just add another creature.  The only time it makes sense is if you have really big creatures, since you then get more for the cost.  However, then the randomness really kicks in.

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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470428#msg470428
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2012, 04:11:38 pm »
Entropy =/= Randomness.

Is 15% additive {(0.15*n)%} or multiplicative {1-(0.85)^n}?
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Re: Shard of Freedom | Shard of Freedom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37431.msg470429#msg470429
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2012, 04:15:43 pm »
Entropy =/= Randomness.

Is 15% additive {(0.15*n)%} or multiplicative {1-(0.85)^n}?
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