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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422128#msg422128
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 10:26:21 pm »
If light brings light fire stall, I'm afraid that they will come with deflags. I would suggest a deck with steals ( I suspect they will bring sanctuaries) so for me death mark, steals, aether pillars/pends and spiders. For the deck against entropy, I would take the purify out and I would add the nightmare. The nightmare will be useful for healing and clogging opponent's hand with the evolved graboids. Against fire now, bonebolt may work but I suspect again here that they will bring phoenixes. So IMO we go mono fire mark, deflags, aether pillars/pends and fractals.

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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422131#msg422131
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 10:27:27 pm »
@mrpaper
Tonite on chat, napalm openly said they were going to choose "honor" card for all of their matches. It is up to you to trust her or not. But in case you do, i think you should choose betrayer.

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* For the graboid deck, it is up to evaria. But yeah, nightmare is a good alternative to purify.  The reason i put purify is because they used a poison deck against us before and won. Last round i kept nightmare in our vault because you wanted it :) Its time will come, maybe now, if evaria wants it.

* They can bring phoenix but I highly doubt they will bring fractal too. But who knows. In any case, if mrpaper uses another fractix deck higs will have to use fractal chargers / mono aether or bonebolt deck. Water scared me enough to be cautious about fractal decks since they kept quanta denying us. The one i posted for higs is less effected by that, it works fine if she fails to draw cremation but works wonders if she manages to draw early 1-2. Besides that, mrpaper doesn't want to use fractix deck :p

* As for my deck against light, me having a non-mono aether deck would mean someone else in our team would have to be stuck with mono aether or fractal chargers. Another viable option would be me using graboid deck and evaria using mono aether against entropy. But entropy used deflags in all their matches against us and evaria would be considerably more vulnerable if she doesn't use graboid deck. Light is relativly weaker than other elements (maybe except :fire), and their vault is so full of archangels that i can PU. So mono-aether can do it i hope. But i'm fully open to suggestions how that mono-aether will be or if i'll be better of with fractal chargers.
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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422132#msg422132
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 10:30:11 pm »
Oh also we need to pick betray or honor for our fights... It's pretty much a gamble so Idk what to pick for each duel.... If Napalm said she will go for honor, she might bluff, but I would more tend to believe she mostly give up on this war and doesn't care anymore and that this is true so yeah we should go for betray here. 

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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422143#msg422143
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2011, 10:45:09 pm »
I tried to make some decks using discord / lava golems. But they were considerably RNG dependent, so i just didn't post them.
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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422401#msg422401
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2011, 03:08:48 pm »
Regarding my match vs :time - Devtal looks good, but I'd like to get rid of the nightmare in favor of an extra Steal. The most likely decks I think they'll bring against us will be either their :fire duo w/ deflags (should be a breeze) or their :aether duo with Dims (could cause problems if I only have 1 Steal in my deck). Here's the updated deck:

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Also, we aren't playing vs :water, but :gravity...

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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422412#msg422412
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2011, 03:28:39 pm »
Also, we aren't playing vs :water, but :gravity...
Weird, i'm pretty sure it was :water earlier. Hm this might change decks we can use.
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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422416#msg422416
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2011, 03:32:37 pm »
Weird, i'm pretty sure it was :water earlier. Hm this might change decks we can use.
You probably read across the table incorrectly:

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No big deal, though. We have plenty of time. Let's evaluate what :gravity has and what we should take vs them. I'm in IRC and Elements Chat, or we can do it here. :)

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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422420#msg422420
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2011, 03:40:25 pm »
Edited my posts on the first page accordingly.

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Lost against our devtal
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Comments: I think they will use graboid deck.
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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422433#msg422433
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2011, 03:52:24 pm »
Proposed deck vs :gravity
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Possibly switch out 1 Fractal for 1 Lightning for more CC.

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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422437#msg422437
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2011, 03:54:50 pm »
Yeah, since its not water there is not much need for fog shield nor cremations. They may have looted earthquakes from mark's suicide deck on round3, they used one deck with EQ on round 4 which they lost. Other than these, i can't see any EQ's in their decks.

But they have discord / bh decks. Gonna test higs deck against that.

Done: Seems like higs deck can win against this consistently. it was trainer ai tho.
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You are right, seems to need 1 more lightning against this
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Wins easily against this
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Same, rather easy win.
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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422458#msg422458
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2011, 04:39:44 pm »
Okay, gonna post this deck in the OP for Higs.

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Re: Round 5 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33329.msg422470#msg422470
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2011, 05:05:36 pm »
OP updated with decks, salvages, discards, and conversions. Please let me know if you intend to Honor or Betray and I will denote it in the OP.

I'm going to go with Honor. This way I am guaranteed a Salvage if I win, and will discard either 24 or 27 if I lose, depending on what my opponent does.

 

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