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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg434142#msg434142
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2011, 12:58:26 am »
What I dont like about this card is all 3 turns get destroyed/stolen when opponent uses pulverizer or steal or something, with bone shield you only lose one ticker.

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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg434209#msg434209
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2011, 03:50:25 am »
i prefer bonewall, simply because it cant be defragged or stolen as easy, which are the most common anti-dimshield cards i see.

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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg438985#msg438985
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2011, 07:51:58 pm »
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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg441961#msg441961
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2011, 12:59:11 am »
Sometimes i think this is too cheap. I was in a game with 6 shriekers out, enemy had 4 hp, and he used a dimensional shield and beat me  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(...and btw this crying face looks EXTREMELY weird.

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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg441963#msg441963
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2011, 01:04:21 am »
Sometimes i think this is too cheap. I was in a game with 6 shriekers out, enemy had 4 hp, and he used a dimensional shield and beat me  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(...and btw this crying face looks EXTREMELY weird.
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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg453092#msg453092
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2012, 09:08:22 pm »
This card is great but a real pain in the ass if you don't have any sort of permanent control in your hand.

Many newbie mono Aether decks fail because they trust too much on their shield. ::)

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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg453183#msg453183
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2012, 11:46:37 pm »
This card is great but a real pain in the ass if you don't have any sort of pillar control in your hand.

Many newbie mono Aether decks fail because they trust too much on their shield. ::)
Or permanent control. You can destroy it and steal it.
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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg453677#msg453677
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2012, 03:07:04 am »
Overpowered. Not enough cost. Needs nerf.

Although its not mpossible to destroy it

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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg453683#msg453683
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2012, 03:13:59 am »
Overpowered. Not enough cost. Needs nerf.

Although its not mpossible to destroy it
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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg458221#msg458221
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2012, 04:28:26 pm »
Yeah, dim shield is nice and all, but just about ANY good PvP deck is going to be packing SOME easy way around dim shield.  I see it as an AMAZING AI3 grinder card, but I don't think really good players worry too much about this card as PC and card advantage are the name of the game at high levels, (IIRC).

Also, Chapuz, you missed fire bolt/fire lance stall as a way to beat dim shield span, also a silence on the turn before he would have to renew it gives you a turn to blast at him, which could be enough if he started chaining them at low health. 

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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg458228#msg458228
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2012, 04:42:08 pm »
Overpowered. Not enough cost. Needs nerf.

Although its not mpossible to destroy it
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Re: Dimensional Shield | Phase Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1988.msg458297#msg458297
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2012, 07:19:47 pm »
For the most part I have to agree with Alho and Chapuz. Dim shield is more or less balanced. Currently the only kind of decks I see having a potential problem are mono :time and mono :air. They may have a hard time with shield spam plus gas combos. But, making a viable INDIRECT counter shouldn't be a problem. I certainly dont think we should fix it by nerfing the shield or putting in a specific counter though.
- :fire => deflag, bolts
- :aether - do it right back, mind gate is a real killer there
- :darkness => steal, devourer, drain
- :water => ice bolt, frost shield for immaterials
- :earth => pulverizer w/ grav mark. Which is also quite general purpose
- :death => poison
- :gravity => momentum, catapult, gravity pull to stall
- :light => out heal it (indirect)
- :entropy => butterfly effect.
- :life => again out heal it, thorns shield for immaterials
- :air => gas w/ fire mark. This is a bit specific though so IMHO air needs a LITTLE help.
- :time => procrastination. Short of SoP / Dune Scorp though, this is a pretty tough one as a mono.

I think that does it. In my opinion only air and time could use some help, but some would argue this is true in general so the problem IS NOT with the shield itself.
I think its good as is.
Annoying when spammed? yes, but not game breaking if you put a little thought into your deck.
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